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Mathzy

@mathzy@mastodon.green · 2 months ago

How US Big Tech is doing in our 🇬🇧 house:

#Google ➡️ Proton 🇨🇭

Google Maps ➡️ #CoMaps 🇺🇳

#Chrome / #Edge ➡️ #Vivaldi 🇳🇴

Stock #Android ➡️ #GrapheneOS 🇨🇦

#Windows ➡️ #LinuxMint 🇺🇳

#WhatsApp ➡️ #Signal 🇺🇸 (Non-Profit)

#Facebook / #Twitter / #Discord ➡️ #Mastodon Green 🇩🇪

#Amazon ➡️ Currys / John Lewis / HMV / Qobuz / Waterstones / local shops 🇬🇧 🇪🇺

#eBay ➡️ Vinted 🇱🇹

It can be done people! Slowly but surely...

#LeaveBigTech #US #BigTech

#leavebigtech #comaps #ebay #discord #linuxmint #whatsapp #vivaldi #edge #grapheneos #amazon #chrome #twitter #windows #google #bigtech #android #signal #us #facebook #mastodon

erenault

@erenault@piaille.fr · 2 months ago

@mathzy mastodon is not suitable for discord user as it has no private message and no voice chat.
#Signal is non-profit for now, as whatsapp was by the time. Consider true open source alternatives.
Proton does not provide search engine 🤔

David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

@david_chisnall@infosec.exchange · 2 months ago

@erenault @mathzy

#Signal is non-profit for now, as whatsapp was by the time.

WhatsApp was never a non-profit, it was commercial from the start. It was set up in 2009 as a corporation in California. It took a lot of VC money over the next five years, before finally being sold to Facebook in 2014. It has been owned by one of the most obnoxious corporations in the world for 12 years. One of the founders was so disgusted with what they did with it that he walked away from a few hundred million dollars in golden handcuffs and gave $50M to bootstrap the Signal Foundation, but it was always a for-profit corporation.

erenault

@erenault@piaille.fr · 2 months ago

@david_chisnall @mathzy
You are right. I don't know where I found this info but it is factually wrong 🤔
But it does not change my point. There are plenty of exemples of non-profit that switch to for-profit at some point.
Thank you for this clarification.

David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

@david_chisnall@infosec.exchange · 2 months ago

@erenault @mathzy

There are plenty of exemples of non-profit that switch to for-profit at some point.

There are very few examples of 501(c)(3)s becoming for-profit corporations. The transition is incredibly hard and requires a lot of intermediate steps, all of which are visible warning signs. There are also a lot of restrictions on the ability of 501(c)(3) organisations to transfer their assets to for-profit entities.

Since you have 'plenty of examples', can you name ten? Note: they must be 501(c)(3) non-profits, not public-benefit corporations or industry groups?

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F-Droid

@fdroidorg@floss.social · 2 months ago

@mathzy 👋