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i got in a stupid shouting match with someone over a year ago. their server limited me
because i fucking fuckity fuck fuck swear too much. i'm bad meanie man, hurt fee fees
anyway after awhile we unblocked each other. we had nice interactions
now, we follow each other
that's human
what's inhuman?
i'm still limited on that server
fire and forget #moderation corrodes the #fediverse
suspends and limits should expire after awhile (apart from bigotry spam etc)
@meljoann oooo, I really like that you can create lists and host them wherever you want too. I've been using GoToSocial for months and I had no idea this feature was a thing :3
I know it's been very slow and not inclusive enough, but seeing fedi slowly adopt new moderation features has been nice. I'm thankful for the marginalized people who have demanded these features for years. Without them, none of this stuff would exist. Good on GoToSocial for prioritizing this in beta too 
It will also be interesting to see if it can work with FASP, so that mastodon admins can also setup a service to relay them.
A #blocklist is not going to be polite
It's a blocklist after all
So much for " #composableModeration" on #centralized #Bluesky
@meljoann oooo, I really like that you can create lists and host them wherever you want too. I've been using GoToSocial for months and I had no idea this feature was a thing :3
I know it's been very slow and not inclusive enough, but seeing fedi slowly adopt new moderation features has been nice. I'm thankful for the marginalized people who have demanded these features for years. Without them, none of this stuff would exist. Good on GoToSocial for prioritizing this in beta too
It will also be interesting to see if it can work with FASP, so that mastodon admins can also setup a service to relay them.
The creator of the alternative social platform Spoutible will be releasing a free tool next month called "Narratives" that monitors claims and rumours circulating online and applies a credibility rating. AI assisted.
@benroyce as if we don't outsource moderation on the fediverse already? How many times have blocklists been inaccurate? We've had these very issues too.
And just because you don't see it, doesn't mean that there's not like 99% of Bluesky's moderation actually working correctly and quietly behind the scenes. You tend to see the 1% that it doesn't produce great outcomes.
We've also seen that in the fediverse too.
#moderation is a shit job. always was, always will be. it's a human problem, no tech can dispel the chore. someone always has to be there, moderating
of course tooling can help immensely. the tooling shifts and manages the chore. that shift can be in good ways. also maybe unintentional bad ways
you know all this
i'm just laying it out so i can say:
on #bluesky, and on #mastodon, as you say, #blocklists create new terrible problems
i'm saying this tooling shift is a bad idea
@benroyce if I add you to a list which deliberately attempts to defame or slander you, then you'd probably want either the list removed or your self removed from it.
There's a balance here.
sure
so #bluesky's effort to farm out #moderation doesn't solve any problems
iit makes them worse in fact for the reasons you delineate
moderation is moderation. it has to be done, there's no way around it
"well i hate it, the job sucks. why don't we just shift the responsibility, outsource it with no money involved and wash our hands of it. we can hype up the idea of 'freedom' and sell it as a gimmick that way"
et voila
the terrible motivation results in a terrible reality
A #blocklist is not going to be polite
It's a blocklist after all
So much for " #composableModeration" on #centralized #Bluesky
For people who want the Fediverse to thrive as a welcoming space, this explanation from @aj of typical harassment methods is important to understand.
It's a key part of the answer to "How come Black people or disabled people say they're receiving horrible posts, but _I_ never see anything bad here?" Or "Why don't these people just learn how to block?"
Once you understand the practical framework of what's able to happen invisible to you, you're much less likely to come over as disbelieving and dismissive - a dynamic which otherwise forms another layer of the problem.
https://gts.sadauskas.id.au/@aj/statuses/01K6Z6ZAXY1SB46X6PAFDKM9S9
With the recent influx of newcomers from #Bluesky , it behooves us to contemplate what we can do to improve #moderation on the #Fediverse - something that has been a problem in the past, and is one of the major reasons why the Fediverse is not as big and as diverse as it could be.
The first and most important step is a cultural change - we need to be _aware_ of how harassment operates, _especially_ if we are not its target. Thus, everyone around here - admins most of all, but really everyone - needs to drill the following into their brains:
If you are not a member of a marginalized group, you are unlikely to ever see much of the #harassment they are experiencing. Heck, you might not even be able to recognize it as such! Thus, if members of said group talk about their experiences with harassment on the Fediverse, _take them at their word_ instead of reacting with disbelief or demands for explanation and elaboration.
It is this frequent reaction disbelief that has done more than anything else to harm the reputation of the Fediverse. Because let's face it, we are still a space that is overwhelmingly white and European/North American. If we want to change that - and it is my fervent belief that we should - then we need to take the lived experiences of others seriously.
Once we have accepted that we need to expand our understanding of how harassment on the Fediverse occurs, _then_ we can work out what tools are needed to improve the situation. Because I too often see the reaction:
"If someone experiences harassment on a large scale, they are not using the tools of the Fediverse correctly to prevent this."
This is blaming the victims of harassment for the problem, and not the Fediverse as a whole. And then we will have the same trainwreck as before, and the Fediverse will remain the same hobbyist's collective rather than the serious challenge to commercial social media platforms it should be if we ever want to stop the world's plunge into #fascism .
For people who want the Fediverse to thrive as a welcoming space, this explanation from @aj of typical harassment methods is important to understand.
It's a key part of the answer to "How come Black people or disabled people say they're receiving horrible posts, but _I_ never see anything bad here?" Or "Why don't these people just learn how to block?"
Once you understand the practical framework of what's able to happen invisible to you, you're much less likely to come over as disbelieving and dismissive - a dynamic which otherwise forms another layer of the problem.
https://gts.sadauskas.id.au/@aj/statuses/01K6Z6ZAXY1SB46X6PAFDKM9S9
With the recent influx of newcomers from #Bluesky , it behooves us to contemplate what we can do to improve #moderation on the #Fediverse - something that has been a problem in the past, and is one of the major reasons why the Fediverse is not as big and as diverse as it could be.
The first and most important step is a cultural change - we need to be _aware_ of how harassment operates, _especially_ if we are not its target. Thus, everyone around here - admins most of all, but really everyone - needs to drill the following into their brains:
If you are not a member of a marginalized group, you are unlikely to ever see much of the #harassment they are experiencing. Heck, you might not even be able to recognize it as such! Thus, if members of said group talk about their experiences with harassment on the Fediverse, _take them at their word_ instead of reacting with disbelief or demands for explanation and elaboration.
It is this frequent reaction disbelief that has done more than anything else to harm the reputation of the Fediverse. Because let's face it, we are still a space that is overwhelmingly white and European/North American. If we want to change that - and it is my fervent belief that we should - then we need to take the lived experiences of others seriously.
Once we have accepted that we need to expand our understanding of how harassment on the Fediverse occurs, _then_ we can work out what tools are needed to improve the situation. Because I too often see the reaction:
"If someone experiences harassment on a large scale, they are not using the tools of the Fediverse correctly to prevent this."
This is blaming the victims of harassment for the problem, and not the Fediverse as a whole. And then we will have the same trainwreck as before, and the Fediverse will remain the same hobbyist's collective rather than the serious challenge to commercial social media platforms it should be if we ever want to stop the world's plunge into #fascism .
Mastodon's moderation could be greatly improved by a system to automatically flag posts containing certain words, phrases or links.
It would allow admins to instantly see problematic content (abuse, spam, etc) without having to wait for reports from users. It doesn't have to automatically take action, just flag it.
There's an existing issue in Mastodon's Github. If you are comfortable using Github, give it a thumbs up if you want this feature: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/21306
Mastodon's moderation could be greatly improved by a system to automatically flag posts containing certain words, phrases or links.
It would allow admins to instantly see problematic content (abuse, spam, etc) without having to wait for reports from users. It doesn't have to automatically take action, just flag it.
There's an existing issue in Mastodon's Github. If you are comfortable using Github, give it a thumbs up if you want this feature: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/21306
We're sad to see that IFTAS Connect has begun the process of shutting down.
We, like many other server admins, often found advice and help from the community there.
We hope that by preserving the 'Connect' news feed with Channel.org tech we can give back to the community.
Thank you for the work by @iftas and everyone involved, including all the admins who shared their thoughts there.
We look forward to seeing what's next for community collaboration on the Fediverse.
https://about.iftas.org/2025/09/29/sunsetting-iftas-connect/
❄️ No way to prevent this, says distro controlled by baby killing drone company (and furries).
｢ We resign, effective immediately, in protest of the Steering Committee’s ongoing pattern of attempting to interfere with moderation team operation, membership and specific moderation decisions ｣
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/a-statement-from-members-of-the-moderation-team/69828
We're sad to see that IFTAS Connect has begun the process of shutting down.
We, like many other server admins, often found advice and help from the community there.
We hope that by preserving the 'Connect' news feed with Channel.org tech we can give back to the community.
Thank you for the work by @iftas and everyone involved, including all the admins who shared their thoughts there.
We look forward to seeing what's next for community collaboration on the Fediverse.
https://about.iftas.org/2025/09/29/sunsetting-iftas-connect/
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