@mike @mekkaokereke @fleeky @rapscalorie @me

Maybe a better approach would be a way for a Fediverse server to be able to nominate and mark itself as as “Shared Blocklist” source, then host discussion of moderation decisions, and share its current net Blocklist. It would need a TBD simple and efficient way for each Shared Blocklist server to periodically accept or reject proposed changes from Shared Blocklist servers *it* references…

#fediverse #blocklist #moderation

@mike @mekkaokereke @fleeky @rapscalorie @me

Another approach would be to publish and manage each Communal Blocklist that aims to gain a wide following as a GitHub-like project, with discussion, proposals, and deliberative approval of small — or large — batches of blocklist changes. This would make it possible for a blocklist to maintain a public reputation for fairness, prompt action, and topic focus. Change volume would likely be a challenge…

#fediverse #blocklist #moderation #github

@mike @mekkaokereke @fleeky @rapscalorie @me

Slashdot-style distributed content moderation / Karma might also be applied to blocklist arbitration:

‘Slash(dot) and Burn: Distributed Moderation in a Large Online Conversation Space’

Cliff Lampe, Paul Resnick
School of Information University of Michigan
(2004 preprint of a ACM CHI 2004 paper)

#fediverse #blocklist #moderation
http://www.presnick.people.si.umich.edu/papers/chi04/LampeResnick.pdf

@rapscalorie @me @mekkaokereke

Communal Blocklists — like sources, lists, and individuals — can gain reputations for fairness, prompt action, and focus on specific issues.

All of this is consistent with Fediverse-style support for Server level block policy — generally used with caution — and personal choice.

If you strongly disagree with a Server’s choice of Blocklists, you can move elsewhere. You should also be able to add Blocklists that you strongly want to use.

#fediverse #blocklist

A #blocklist is not going to be polite

It's a blocklist after all

So much for " #composableModeration" on #centralized #Bluesky

#moderation #AI

@thisismissem

sure, a #blocklist can be capricious and abusive, and subject to pique

but the overarching concept is that anyone makes a blocklist, and makes it as rigorous and comprehensive, or random and shoddy, as they want

and then people subscribe to it or not depending upon its quality (or lack thereof: is the theoretical harm in that a problem if it is self-imposed?)

if #bluesky corporate polices that, then what we get is they've removed the entire premise of #composableModeration

A #blocklist is not going to be polite

It's a blocklist after all

So much for " #composableModeration" on #centralized #Bluesky

#moderation #AI

It's heartwarming to a greying geek that a 5000+ words retrospective on greytrapping is turning out to be popular - https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html (tracked https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html)

#greytrapping #spam #antispam #greylisting #blocklist #openbsd #freebsd #smtp #email #ssh #passwords #passwordguessing #pop3 #security #networking #cybercrime

It's heartwarming to a greying geek that a 5000+ words retrospective on greytrapping is turning out to be popular - https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html (tracked https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html)

#greytrapping #spam #antispam #greylisting #blocklist #openbsd #freebsd #smtp #email #ssh #passwords #passwordguessing #pop3 #security #networking #cybercrime

Friends, it finally happened. On August 7th, 2025, the number of spamtraps intended to fool spammers rolled past the number of inhabitants in my home country of Norway. It's time for a retrospective.

Eighteen Years of Greytrapping - Is the Weirdness Finally Paying Off? https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html (tracked https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html)

#greytrapping #spam #antispam #greylisting #blocklist #openbsd #freebsd #smtp #email #ssh #passwords #passwordguessing #pop3 #security #networking #cybercrime

Friends, it finally happened. On August 7th, 2025, the number of spamtraps intended to fool spammers rolled past the number of inhabitants in my home country of Norway. It's time for a retrospective.

Eighteen Years of Greytrapping - Is the Weirdness Finally Paying Off? https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html (tracked https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html)

#greytrapping #spam #antispam #greylisting #blocklist #openbsd #freebsd #smtp #email #ssh #passwords #passwordguessing #pop3 #security #networking #cybercrime

Friends, it finally happened. On August 7th, 2025, the number of spamtraps intended to woo the unwary spammer rolled past the number of inhabitants in my home country of Norway. It's time for a retrospective.

Eighteen Years of Greytrapping - Is the Weirdness Finally Paying Off? https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html (tracked https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html)

#greytrapping #spam #antispam #greylisting #blocklist #openbsd #freebsd #smtp #email #ssh #passwords #passwordguessing #pop3 #security #networking #cybercrime

Friends, it finally happened. On August 7th, 2025, the number of spamtraps intended to woo the unwary spammer rolled past the number of inhabitants in my home country of Norway. It's time for a retrospective.

Eighteen Years of Greytrapping - Is the Weirdness Finally Paying Off? https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html (tracked https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html)

#greytrapping #spam #antispam #greylisting #blocklist #openbsd #freebsd #smtp #email #ssh #passwords #passwordguessing #pop3 #security #networking #cybercrime

Eighteen Years of Greytrapping - Is the Weirdness Finally Paying Off? https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html (tracked https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html)

Friends, it finally happened. On August 7th, 2025, the number of spamtraps intended to woo the unwary spammer rolled past the number of inhabitants in my home country of Norway.

It's time for a retrospective.

#greytrapping #spam #antispam #greylisting #blocklist #openbsd #freebsd #smtp #email #ssh #passwords #passwordguessing #pop3 #security #networking #cybercrime

Eighteen Years of Greytrapping - Is the Weirdness Finally Paying Off? https://nxdomain.no/~peter/eighteen_years_of_greytrapping.html (tracked https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html)

Friends, it finally happened. On August 7th, 2025, the number of spamtraps intended to woo the unwary spammer rolled past the number of inhabitants in my home country of Norway.

It's time for a retrospective.

#greytrapping #spam #antispam #greylisting #blocklist #openbsd #freebsd #smtp #email #ssh #passwords #passwordguessing #pop3 #security #networking #cybercrime

Thanks to everyone who voted in my "Should I Stop Caring and Let IP Address Reputation Sort Them Out?" https://nxdomain.no/~peter/should_i_stop_caring_and_let_ip_reputation_sort_them_out.html poll.

I have since added the seriously, folks note to the exported files and told anybody who wanted out of the big list that I will remove them on condition that they track down the morons who use that list as anything other than a historical artifact and LART them.

#blocklist #pop3gropers #passwordgropers #cybercrime #ipreputation #security

Thanks to everyone who voted in my "Should I Stop Caring and Let IP Address Reputation Sort Them Out?" https://nxdomain.no/~peter/should_i_stop_caring_and_let_ip_reputation_sort_them_out.html poll.

I have since added the seriously, folks note to the exported files and told anybody who wanted out of the big list that I will remove them on condition that they track down the morons who use that list as anything other than a historical artifact and LART them.

#blocklist #pop3gropers #passwordgropers #cybercrime #ipreputation #security

For people who run large public HTTP services, are there any IP/JA3/fingerprint lists that you use to create outright block lists at your network edge? I'm interested in ones that you know are safe and don't cause false positives for you.

I've used Firehol in the past but unsure how up to date they are these days. Retoots appreciated!

#netsec #ja3 #blocklist