Just don't mis-type the domain name, or you'll get directed to those strange people who write about cats and sheep and Glasgow. (-:
https://mastodon.social/@_elena/115937301398338772
Do you think that the social. top-level domain registry (Leaf Group) allows single-letter registrations like 'w'? (-:
This bizarre, hurried cut-and-paste Bluesky clone called "W" (wsocial.eu) says it will fill this huge gap in Europe where no social media platforms exist.
Meanwhile... https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/fediverse-near-me_828094#3/25.80/29.79
Just don't mis-type the domain name, or you'll get directed to those strange people who write about cats and sheep and Glasgow. (-:
https://mastodon.social/@_elena/115937301398338772
Do you think that the social. top-level domain registry (Leaf Group) allows single-letter registrations like 'w'? (-:
It seems there are fully hosted and self-hosted options for ATProto/Bluesky now, I stand corrected on that front.
Out of curiosity I looked into what it would take to build my own social media service on top of ATProto. The technical architecture is interesting, but... what would I actually gain?
I chose Mastodon back in 2022 when Bluesky was still invite-only and had no self-hosting story. ActivityPub is a W3C standard. Mastodon gGmbH is a non-profit. The Fediverse has years of proven independent operation across thousands of instances.
Bluesky PBC is a US for-profit company that controls protocol development, although they have made statements about wanting independent governance. Yet the network remains heavily centralized with most users on bsky.social.
Running my own Mastodon instance already gives me sovereignty. ATProto doesn't offer more of that, arguably less given the current state of things. Not saying people shouldn't build on it. But for someone already running independent Fediverse infrastructure, it's hard to see what value it would add. I didn't see the appeal back then and I don't see it now.
#Bluesky #ATProto #Decentralization #SelfHosting #SelfHosted
Feel like whenever this discussion is joined people start talking past each other.
It may be the case that the ATmosphere can be decentralized. And there may be small scale projects which test this potentiality. But the fact remains that it remains highly centralized.
Rob Ricci @ricci has developed a metric to address this matter
https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/
The purpose is not to dump on #Bluesky, but rather to establish meaningful context for these discussions.
@rolle there used to be a plan for Bsky to communicate with ActivityPub, no? That didn't materialize? But Threads does, right? I'm not very much in the loop.
@smhg It didn't really materialize fully with either of them. For Bluesky, it already works with BridgyFed (https://fed.brid.gy/settings), but only partially - it works for people who follow both the bot and your counterpart on the other side. So it's not fully two-way.
As for Threads, they opened ActivityPub federation only in the US due to legal issues, and even that is limited. Mastodon users can see Threads posts (like @barackobama), but replies stay within Mastodon. Threads users can't see Mastodon posts, and EU users can't enable this feature at all.
By this point I think interoperability between these services won't ever happen. Nobody is driving it forward.
#Interoperability #Bluesky #Federation #Threads #SocialMedia #Decentralization #BridgyFed
It seems there are fully hosted and self-hosted options for ATProto/Bluesky now, I stand corrected on that front.
Out of curiosity I looked into what it would take to build my own social media service on top of ATProto. The technical architecture is interesting, but... what would I actually gain?
I chose Mastodon back in 2022 when Bluesky was still invite-only and had no self-hosting story. ActivityPub is a W3C standard. Mastodon gGmbH is a non-profit. The Fediverse has years of proven independent operation across thousands of instances.
Bluesky PBC is a US for-profit company that controls protocol development, although they have made statements about wanting independent governance. Yet the network remains heavily centralized with most users on bsky.social.
Running my own Mastodon instance already gives me sovereignty. ATProto doesn't offer more of that, arguably less given the current state of things. Not saying people shouldn't build on it. But for someone already running independent Fediverse infrastructure, it's hard to see what value it would add. I didn't see the appeal back then and I don't see it now.
#Bluesky #ATProto #Decentralization #SelfHosting #SelfHosted
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"A Hootsuite employee mentioned geolocation, saying the company could drill down to street-level data."
Note: There are Four articles in this post including a Bypass Paywall to the Globe and Mail
"While Hootsuite is based in Canada, it has hundreds of employees globally, including CEO Irina Novoselsky who is based in N.Y City. The company serves major brands like Adobe and Ikea and more .."
h/t @tod
#Luxembourg #Talkwalker
#Canada #USA #Resist #SocialMedia
#Hootsite #FB #TikTok #Threads #YouTube #Twitter #WhatsApp #Bluesky
#Pintrest #CyberSecurity #AI
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RE: https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/115937101960287352
Exactly. Pointing out that #Bluesky isn't *practically* decentralized yet is not a critique, it's a statement of the work they need to do. (and I wish them luck!)
Mastodon has its own demons to slay. No one is perfect here! We're just talking about how things should improve. I so don't want us to form a circular firing squad. We can all win.
RE: https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/115937101960287352
Exactly. Pointing out that #Bluesky isn't *practically* decentralized yet is not a critique, it's a statement of the work they need to do. (and I wish them luck!)
Mastodon has its own demons to slay. No one is perfect here! We're just talking about how things should improve. I so don't want us to form a circular firing squad. We can all win.
@mike This is untrue. There are a number of independent apps across various verticals. Blogging: leaflet, pckt, offprint; Streaming: stream.place; Short-form video: spark; Git: tangled; and so many more, and none of them are directly dependent on Bluesky whatsoever.
This doesn't even count the microblogging competitors coming up that are full-stack independent of Bsky as well (Blacksky, Northsky, Gander, Eurosky etc.)
Feel like whenever this discussion is joined people start talking past each other.
It may be the case that the ATmosphere can be decentralized. And there may be small scale projects which test this potentiality. But the fact remains that it remains highly centralized.
Rob Ricci @ricci has developed a metric to address this matter
https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/
The purpose is not to dump on #Bluesky, but rather to establish meaningful context for these discussions.
I will be opting my account out of the #Bluesky bridge next week. If you follow me from Bluesky (I think there are about 3.9K of you) and want to continue seeing my posts you will need to get an account on the fediverse. Cheers.
Really interesting things afoot in social media. It seems like "W", a newly announced "European alternative to X" is actually a fork of the Bluesky code, and is, at least for now, kind of part of the Bluesky AT Proto network. (Thanks to @quillmatiq for the explainer.)
And, apparently #Bluesky board member @mmasnick really doesn't like the idea.
It will be fascinating to see how this develops.
This fucking Free Our Feeds bullshit is basically trying to do for Bluesky what Mozilla does for Google.
And guess what, there’s Mozilla’s executive director and president on as custodians alongside two guys from AI companies and the executive director of Meta partner Social Web Foundation.
I’m so bloody sick and tired of bloody Silicon Valley asshats sucking all the oxygen out of the room with their bullshit and I truly hope the folks roped into legitimising it realise this and distance themselves as quickly as possible (you know who you are).
#FreeOurFeeds #SiliconValley #SanFrancisco #BlueSky #SocialWebFoundation #bullshit
Really interesting things afoot in social media. It seems like "W", a newly announced "European alternative to X" is actually a fork of the Bluesky code, and is, at least for now, kind of part of the Bluesky AT Proto network. (Thanks to @quillmatiq for the explainer.)
And, apparently #Bluesky board member @mmasnick really doesn't like the idea.
It will be fascinating to see how this develops.
