In case you missed it, the Guppe discussion group system has permanently closed down.

However, there is a replacement discussion system run by Fedigroups.social. I've tried to list the active public FediGroups at:

➡️ https://fedi.directory/tag/fediverse-groups

- To follow a listed group, copy-paste its Fediverse address into the search box in Mastodon, then click "Follow".

- To post to a group, mention its account in your post.

More info about using groups at:

➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse

#Guppe #FediGroups

In case you missed it, the Guppe discussion group system has permanently closed down.

However, there is a replacement discussion system run by Fedigroups.social. I've tried to list the active public FediGroups at:

➡️ https://fedi.directory/tag/fediverse-groups

- To follow a listed group, copy-paste its Fediverse address into the search box in Mastodon, then click "Follow".

- To post to a group, mention its account in your post.

More info about using groups at:

➡️ https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse

#Guppe #FediGroups

bummer. only just found out that Gup.pe groups no longer work & that the service is irredeemably broken, with the domain hijacked by someone pushing sign-up to fastmail.com. (Not a great look Fastmail.)

https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118

I found @ecologies@a.gup.pe pretty useful. The STS group too.

Has anyone tried out alternatives?

Would @ecologies@fedigroups.social be worthwhile? Or @ecologies@ovo.st?

#guppe #aguppe #fedigroups

bummer. only just found out that Gup.pe groups no longer work & that the service is irredeemably broken, with the domain hijacked by someone pushing sign-up to fastmail.com. (Not a great look Fastmail.)

https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118

I found @ecologies@a.gup.pe pretty useful. The STS group too.

Has anyone tried out alternatives?

Would @ecologies@fedigroups.social be worthwhile? Or @ecologies@ovo.st?

#guppe #aguppe #fedigroups

Fediverse admins, if you haven't already you might want to defederate the domain gup.pe

It's no longer controlled by the people who ran the Guppe groups service, so its accounts are all broken. It might be safest to just block the whole thing, and it would make your server's search results cleaner by excluding dead accounts.

(Guppe's domain was apparently bought against the will of its owners before it expired, due to some little-known clause in the domain's small print.)

#Guppe #FediAdmin

Hey Fediverse admins,

You might want to defederate gup.pe as it is no longer controlled by any kind of Fediverse service.

Apart from any theoretical risks of hijacked accounts, the amount of non-functional accounts it displays in search results will be misleading your server's members.

#Guppe#FediAdmin

Hey Fediverse admins,

You might want to defederate gup.pe as it is no longer controlled by any kind of Fediverse service.

Apart from any theoretical risks of hijacked accounts, the amount of non-functional accounts it displays in search results will be misleading your server's members.

#Guppe#FediAdmin

The other thing that the #Guppe incident showed us is that the #Fediverse seriously needs the #Nomadic protocol.

Let's say the Fediverse understands the protocol: just move to a new domain, inform all instances "this is the new domain, automatically re-subscribe please", done. Life goes on for regular people.

I am not saying it is that easy or that's how exactly it will work. But it could've been avoided. Right now, entire communities are gone, many who were relying on it are now disconnected. (Then again, I can argue that it's time to clean the membership since many accounts are also stagnant.)

So, when? #ActivityPub2 ?

#SocialWeb#OpenSocial#OpenSocialWeb

The other thing that the #Guppe incident showed us is that the #Fediverse seriously needs the #Nomadic protocol.

Let's say the Fediverse understands the protocol: just move to a new domain, inform all instances "this is the new domain, automatically re-subscribe please", done. Life goes on for regular people.

I am not saying it is that easy or that's how exactly it will work. But it could've been avoided. Right now, entire communities are gone, many who were relying on it are now disconnected. (Then again, I can argue that it's time to clean the membership since many accounts are also stagnant.)

So, when? #ActivityPub2 ?

#SocialWeb#OpenSocial#OpenSocialWeb

> ... a.gup.pe has been replaced with a WordPress installation full of SEO-targeted content about Mastodon.

You've got to be evil.

@vmstan could anything be done about this, after all it is open source. Something along the lines of @groups.vmst.io ? Sounds like the kind of challenge you would particularly enjoy.

https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118

#Guppe#GuppeGroups#Mastodon

Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.

The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog 😞

However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:

➡️ https://about.fedigroups.social/home

FediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.

(More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )

@FediTips

The situation with #Guppe wouldn't happen if it was really decentralized aka #p2p fault tolerant tech. Like #Namecoin , .ens IPNS #IPFS, or #nostr #pubky #ZeroNet

@dandylover1
ipns://seedit.eth plebbit.com hashchan.org are interesting.

Meanwhile #Friendica & #Hubzilla have some groups too.

also shout out to @newsmast , they host few communities, check them out.

I've tried fedigroups.social & it's hard to use, unintutive & obscure. I see just a mastodon server there. It is not clear & obvsious from main home page how to list groups, posts inside groups, group members.

With such trend no wonder why people look back to #Usenet. However I think #XMPP is more usable (it does have groups and proto social network inside too)

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The #Guppe situation happened because all groups were on one server, so when that server went down all the groups did too.

FediGroups is a good immediate solution for getting groups up and running again, but it's also a single server so it's vulnerable.

As a long term solution we need to have groups hosted on many different servers. If one server goes down, groups on other servers could carry on.

Techy people might be interested in hosting/forking Guppe from source at https://github.com/immers-space/guppe