@ntnsndr
They are different in how they empower people as well.
#ActivityPub is based around servers whose admins have the power to do literally anything at their whim, as they are the source of truth.
#Nostr, OTOH, (and perhaps #ATProto as well; I need to learn more about it) is based around servers that are dumb relays that simply pass signed data between users' devices.
For a taste of what I've been working on this season, I have a new, tiny-little essay in the in-house journal of our Center for Media, Religion, and Culture, Rhythms: "Are Protocols Elite?" Based on a collab with Avery Edenfield. https://www.colorado.edu/cmrc/2025/11/06/rhythms-fall-2025-counter-media
@ntnsndr
To my mind, an example of an elite internet protocol and a corresponding vernacular one is #ActivityPub versus #Nostr.
AP was created by the W3C whereas Nostr was created by some random guy under a pseudonym whose real name is a mystery.
fedicat
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A decentralized vine (remember vine?) short form video platform, built on Nostr. Kinda early days, but interesting to see another attempt at this type of platform using open social tech.
A decentralized vine (remember vine?) short form video platform, built on Nostr. Kinda early days, but interesting to see another attempt at this type of platform using open social tech.
Requiring government ID just to make an app is a disaster for speech, privacy, and innovation. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/11/application-gatekeeping-ever-expanding-pathway-internet-censorship
Technology is supercharging the current attack on democracy by making it easier to spy on people, block free speech, and control what we do. The Electronic Frontier Foundation’s activists, lawyers, and technologists are fighting back. Join us! https://takebackctrl.org/
@racchio there has been a lot of chatter about it on https://scuttlebutt.nz over the years, if you care to install Yet Another Distributed Social Network to dive deeper. It is the usual rhetoric & dog-whistles in #Nostr projects- "complete freedom of expression" "without the risk of de-platforming" predictably attracts bigots who want to shout hateful things. 'Big Tent' philosophy and the 'Nazi bar' outcome etc etc https://startup-weekly.com/Primal-launches-new-social-network-for-digital-freedom/
@racchio I don't know much about #Nostr, other than that it's a fascist-run project with a disastrous cultural history. But yes, #Keet is for IM and runs fully decentralised.
(I'm going to use that word rather than "distributed" as the architecture *does* actually facilitate the distribution of power as well as of compute & storage. It's also built by a pretty cool community of anarchists & anarcho-syndicalists, at least the ones I've met.)
@racchio I don't know much about #Nostr, other than that it's a fascist-run project with a disastrous cultural history. But yes, #Keet is for IM and runs fully decentralised.
(I'm going to use that word rather than "distributed" as the architecture *does* actually facilitate the distribution of power as well as of compute & storage. It's also built by a pretty cool community of anarchists & anarcho-syndicalists, at least the ones I've met.)
To everybody currently experiencing the #Signal messenger downtime and precariousness of digital infrastructure that relies on servers, know that #Keet exists! It can preserve network connectivity and message deliverability in very degraded and hostile network conditions due to the absence of servers in its #p2p architecture.
The world needs resilient communications for what is to come. Don't let your whole network depend on one company.
hamish campbell
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#Nostr is a classic “me-too” project caught in the #geekproblem loop. It won’t move forward until it learns to value community as core infrastructure.
#Bluesky, meanwhile, is already drifting into the hands of VC-funded #fluffy elitists who turn every commons into a brand. It’s a likely dead-end for real change or challenge — which is exactly why the #mainstreaming, #blocking, #NGO, and #fashernista crowds flock to it.
#Nostr is a classic “me-too” project caught in the #geekproblem loop. It won’t move forward until it learns to value community as core infrastructure.
#Bluesky, meanwhile, is already drifting into the hands of VC-funded #fluffy elitists who turn every commons into a brand. It’s a likely dead-end for real change or challenge — which is exactly why the #mainstreaming, #blocking, #NGO, and #fashernista crowds flock to it.
We finally have true #socialmedia in #nostr for authentic conversation compard to the disingenuous facade of #mastodon
Stefano Marinelli
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Alan Zimmerman
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【 #ANProto is the spiritual successor to #SSB, but without all of the extra stuff that is difficult to maintain...an attempt to argue that #ATProto is too involved in it's own networking infrastructure to be usefully decentralized...operates under the working theory that #Nostr will never reach anyone besides Bitcoiners" 】
Everett Bogue's new protocol https://anproto.com and its first app https://wiredove.net
【 #ANProto is the spiritual successor to #SSB, but without all of the extra stuff that is difficult to maintain...an attempt to argue that #ATProto is too involved in it's own networking infrastructure to be usefully decentralized...operates under the working theory that #Nostr will never reach anyone besides Bitcoiners" 】
Everett Bogue's new protocol https://anproto.com and its first app https://wiredove.net
friends, i’m sorry, but queer.party will, after eight and a half years, shut down on the 15th of December, 2025.
for more information, please see the announcement posted on the home timeline - this announcement also includes links to, and a list of, other instances that have offered invites or opened registrations to queer.party’s users.
a full timeline of the shutdown is posted on SourceHut, where queer.party's
source code is hosted: https://paste.sr.ht/~maff/67f89a7d69279ee04ea7e352056149f86ac08ec4
Thank you for being here. It’s been lovely.
post was written as reply in thread announced discontinuation of queer.party instance, but Original Post of Topic Starter lost #queer.party #queerparty
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that wouldn't be the case if queer.party was really decentralized #p2p like freenet, hyphanet, scuttlebutt manyverse tildefriends, #web3, (or at lame case #nostr)
So refugees are welcomed to try those.
There is also promising project AutonomiDweb, but I haven't seen any users posting content there.
You could also try http://mitra.social & #hubzilla , both should have nomadic identities.
Follow me & boost if you interested in sutainable decentralized tech.
Tim Chambers
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If anyone knows of people/groups that actually care about people, getting people off of #BigSocial, advancing the Open Social Web and making the spaces more accessible, safe and user-friendly let me know. Just without the weird ideology, religion and protocol wars. #Fedi#fediverse#opensocialweb#activitypub#atproto#nostr