The worst outcome is what we’ve already seen too often: blinded narrowness.

The slow creep of civility politics that smothers dissent while smiling at best — and ignoring or #blocking at worst.

This silent damage killed #SocialHub, turning what could’ve been a commons into a small, irrelevant gated forum of insiders.

In this Codeberg issue @thisismissem wonders..

> "Has anyone done an assessment of the authentication mechanisms and standards used by each of these [C2S] implementations?

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-experience/issues/130#issuecomment-7554760

I will bring this to a #SocialHub topic later this week, if I don't forget (otherwise remind me :)

#SX #ActivityPub #C2S #fediverse

@bonfire @mayel @ivan

What I loved to see in the #ActivityPub documentation is the inclusion of the list of Fediverse Enhancement Proposals #FEP's that are implemented. It will serve a stimulus for other #fediverse devs to adopt them too, and shape the grassroots standardization process. Posted the list to #SocialHub too..

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/bonfire-social-1-0rc3-is-released/8071

Also nudging to add #Bonfire as implementation in FEP docs..

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/issues/194

And to review @helge https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/673

@nlnet @ngi

@andypiper @yala @hamishcampbell @cbase

The real solution is to respect and build from the fluffy/spiky debate. The second best is to shift the #NGO #fluffy language to be less obviously bad https://hamishcampbell.com/keeping-conversations-open-the-fluffy-spiky-debate/

The worst outcome is for this blinded narrowness to continue, it's simply silent damage.

#socialhub destroyed itself through this path... you guys as individuals will be fine, but the social tech damage you push is real.

How can people try not to be prats about this conversation?

@andypiper @yala @hamishcampbell @cbase

The real solution is to respect and build from the fluffy/spiky debate. The second best is to shift the #NGO #fluffy language to be less obviously bad https://hamishcampbell.com/keeping-conversations-open-the-fluffy-spiky-debate/

The worst outcome is for this blinded narrowness to continue, it's simply silent damage.

#socialhub destroyed itself through this path... you guys as individuals will be fine, but the social tech damage you push is real.

How can people try not to be prats about this conversation?

@bonfire @mayel @ivan

What I loved to see in the #ActivityPub documentation is the inclusion of the list of Fediverse Enhancement Proposals #FEP's that are implemented. It will serve a stimulus for other #fediverse devs to adopt them too, and shape the grassroots standardization process. Posted the list to #SocialHub too..

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/bonfire-social-1-0rc3-is-released/8071

Also nudging to add #Bonfire as implementation in FEP docs..

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/issues/194

And to review @helge https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/673

@nlnet @ngi

Socialhub grew a genuine and thriving community.What is #Socialhub – in the ActivityPub world https://hamishcampbell.com/what-is-socialhub-in-the-activertypub-world/

Socialhub grew a genuine and thriving community.What is #Socialhub – in the ActivityPub world https://hamishcampbell.com/what-is-socialhub-in-the-activertypub-world/

This happens so often you can see it everywhere, examples here on the #Fediverse in #socialhub, in the wider world every protest camp has these issues. Commons and the metaphor of “grow a backbone” https://hamishcampbell.com/the-metaphor-of-grow-a-backbone/

This happens so often you can see it everywhere, examples here on the #Fediverse in #socialhub, in the wider world every protest camp has these issues. Commons and the metaphor of “grow a backbone” https://hamishcampbell.com/the-metaphor-of-grow-a-backbone/

https://activitypub.rocks/news/handing-off-activitypubrocks-to-the-activitypub-community.html

It's official now: activitypub.rocks is transferred to ActivityPub community.

You might think that the recipient is #SocialHub, which is located on the socialhub.activitypub.rocks subdomain, but for some reason it's a different entity, the W3C Social Web Community Group. It's hard to find any information about the people who control resources related to this group, but it seems that the site is controlled by the organizer of FediForum (https://fediforum.org/).

Update 2025-08-31: I was informed that the transfer only involved admin access to the site; domain owner didn't change

Hi @julian,
IMO the problem is a social one, the proposed solutions technical. Won't do.

IMO it takes social activities, like conferences, to build bonds. Online that's orders of magnitude more time-consuming, frustrating and brittle.

#SocialHub, as I knew it, lacked interest of the 'big shots'. Their disinterest rendered it a side-show.

In all my posting about SH governance, I have attempted to state facts (as I see them), and give my honest opinions. Either my post here;

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/defamation-of-ps-and-how-must-stop/5472/6

... inadvertently crossed a line and deserved to be hidden by the “wellbeing” system, or that system is being weaponised to silence inconvenient truths. I leave each of you to decide for yourselves which it is, and respond accordingly.

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#fediverse#SocialHub

This post is relevant to the degeneration of the #SocialHub project https://hamishcampbell.com/why-teach-everyone-to-code-has-become-a-dead-end-slogan/ this used to be the place for #ActivityPub and #Fediverse reboot, but now the social side is the few remaining unthinking "problem" people. This is a normal path, outcome, that we do need to compost to keep growing seeds #KISS

@smallcircles I would like it to be on the record publicly that @strypey
was very supporting and encouraging regarding the necessity and promotion of inclusive leadership when it came to our (unsuccessful) attempts to build momentum for #socialhub online events

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/widening-the-talent-pool-for-our-upcoming-fediconference-initiative

Such opinions and sentiments may have become lost through bilateral communications and from passages of time.

However, that does not permit such serious fingerpointing.

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@jdp23 @laurenshof

Recently on the #ActivityPub developers forum SocialHub, the last active admin announced an intention to stop doing essential maintenance. Since then, we've been talking about the need for new governance;

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/socialhub-developer-community-reboot-or-shutdown/5445/

We need an admin team responsive to the community who gather there (whether to comment or just read). People whose priority is to help us share knowledge and solve problems together, so we can make the fediverse better for everyone.

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#AP #ActivityPub #SocialHub