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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

"Journalism" today

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David B. :SetouchiExplorer:
David B. :SetouchiExplorer:
@David@setouchi.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron Ineptitude or ill-intent. Hard to tell. The French press has a history of not caring about facts if it fits their narrative when talking about something they consider fringe (and there will be no consequence to their slander).
Or... Some people in the French government have a vested interest in the success of W social (either monetary or for good PR) and they're undermining what they see as its main competition. ⤵️

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David B. :SetouchiExplorer:
David B. :SetouchiExplorer:
@David@setouchi.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron We have to expect a lot of media promoting WSocial in the next weeks and months. And that will include a lot of negative mentions of Mastodon, I'm afraid.

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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Sunny
Sunny
@sunnythesheep@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@_elena also, I noticed #Monnet advertised #WSocial (proposing itself as an alternative to Instagram and WSocial as an 'european' alternative to X) 😖

@Gargron @Mastodon

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Zark Muckerburg
Zark Muckerburg
@64bithero@mstdn.games replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron @Mastodon no no no @gargron and John Mastodon have been have a quarrel for years. Something about John kept eating all of the sandwiches in the fridge despite the fact @gargron put him name on them.

He just stopped putting his food on the Mastodon office fridge because of certain behaviors.

That story always gets twisted in its re-telling

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tk 🍜
tk 🍜
@tk@social.apreslanu.it replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@_elena @gargron @Mastodon there is a right call "droit de réponse" that forces media to publish (but not necessarily broadcast) additional facts or versions. also the convention is to ask for comment on quotes and facts and precise the person didn't answer at time of publication (and courtesy is to let a reasonable amount of time for the person to answer).

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Seth of the Fediverse
Seth of the Fediverse
@phillycodehound@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron @Mastodon That's insane. You should!

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deFraid
deFraid
@defred@social.bim.land replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron @Mastodon don't trust french public radio

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Eliza
Eliza
@ineffa@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron Looking new friend. Always active on snap : https://www.snapchat.com/@elima_elisa

Snapchat

Elima Elisa auf Snapchat

Elima Elisa ist auf Snapchat!
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Nick Bergen Computer Quest
Nick Bergen Computer Quest
@NickBergenComputerQuest@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@_elena @imacrea
C’est un problème quand on doit écrire l’article si vite qu’on n’a même pas le temps de faire des recherches correctes. Le “journalisme” moderne est inutile.

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Nick Bergen Computer Quest
Nick Bergen Computer Quest
@NickBergenComputerQuest@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@_elena @imacrea

In November 2025, Eugen Rochko stepped down as Mastodon CEO, and he transferred the trademark and assets to Mastodon. He did NOT cancel his account or any instances. It’s still there. The “journalist” could have check.
https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2025/11/my-next-chapter-with-mastodon

In January 2026, he opted his Mastodon account out of the Bluesky bridge. This was supposedly because of the user behavior at Bsky. But I cannot find a direct statement about him leaving because of users.
https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115912977448929626

Mastodon Blog

My next chapter with Mastodon

Reflections on my time leading Mastodon and what's to come next.
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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@NickBergenComputerQuest you can't "find a direct statement about him leaving because of users" because it's a complete fabrication by that so-called journalist / radio host.

I repeat, a complete fabrication. And my jaw is still on the floor.

Thank you @imacrea for bringing to our attention that shocking paragraph

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Nick Bergen Computer Quest
Nick Bergen Computer Quest
@NickBergenComputerQuest@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@_elena @imacrea Well, that makes sense why it’s a little tough to find then. Which LLM hallucinated that, when it was writing their story.

These people give journalists such a bad name. But by the time you dig into the misinformation, they have 10 more stories up.

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Jack
Jack
@knapjack@gruntle.cc replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

I also hate the French press. It's impossible to clean. #☕️

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NoBorg
NoBorg
@hadon@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron

Humans make mistakes.

Here is a page where you can write him. They will probably mention the mistake and correct it in another podcast:

https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/contact

France Inter

Contacter France Inter

Pour toute question ou suggestion, vous pouvez contacter l’équipe de la radio France Inter par téléphone, courrier postal ou par Internet.
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Wouter 🇳🇱🇧🇷🇧🇪
Wouter 🇳🇱🇧🇷🇧🇪
@AccordingtoWouter@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron I foresee all those blind lemmings who left centralised platform X because one person started pulling the strings there with an undesirable fascist result, and then fled to a similar centralised platform, Bluesky, where ICE is suddenly allowed, now fleeing again to yet another centralised platform, W, only to find out in a few years' time that it's the same shit.

Donkeys don't stumble over the same stone twice!

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Clu | #RipNatenom 🕯
Clu | #RipNatenom 🕯
@moskitokoenig@dizl.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron Wow, this, well, article is... something. In German jurisprudence, I guess this would most likely fall under “false factual claims” and can have legal consequences for the author. As it is not “only” directed against one person, but against the network as a whole and can have very negative consequences, I would at least consider taking legal actions against this person.
The crucial point is: Is a lie being claimed as fact, or is it being expressed as opinion?

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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
@NatureMC@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@_elena I didn't listen to it, only read the text. I wouldn't judge all journalists based on one example.
He states: "Tout cela est très marketing pour W, qui saisit une fenêtre d’opportunité" and while talking about Zeiter's great experience in marketing and publicity he nails the big problem of Mastodon.

Mastodon has neither the money nor the human power for big lobbyism/marketing.
I know, Mastodon fans don't like to hear it but it's a fact. And the size of a network depends on

@Gargron

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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
@NatureMC@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@_elena how many politicians, organisations and journalists will join - because then the masses will join. If we want that is another question.

So yes, it's just one of these "quick" broadcast contributions where an author doesn't interview people directly (or did he?) and graps the informations on the desk. And these were definitively the press release/publicity of Zeiter ...

@Gargron

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Z_Zed_Zed
Z_Zed_Zed
@Z_Zed_Zed@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@NatureMC @_elena @Gargron Is the lack of big capital a bug or a feature? I’m pretty sure most current users view it as a feature.

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@Z_Zed_Zed @NatureMC @Gargron one of my favorite features to be honest (top 3!)

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron

yup

#corporate " #journalism"

we are on #mastodon/ #fediverse because the profit motive in corporate #socialMedia means privacy defilement, free reign for bigotry/ ignorance, and #algorithm manipulation by #plutocracy agendas

the same applies to the #news #media:

#ventureCapital takes over dying traditional media outlets and puts right wing goons in the managing editor positions

we have nonprofit news ( #NPR, #ProPublica, #TheGuardian, etc)

trust them

all else: beware

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@benroyce perfectly said Ben!!! 🙌

I just found a video of the CEO of W Social at Davos literally going: "10 years ago we were saying that data is the new oil, but right now we say HIGH QUALITY data is the new oil."

To me it kind of reads like a confession / motivating force behind (1) creating W Social (2) using AT Proto for their "European alternative to X." Ouf.

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zbrando
zbrando
@zbrando@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@_elena @benroyce We don't need another silo...

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Dead Inside :arch:
Dead Inside :arch:
@deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffee replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@_elena That CEO used to be Chief Privacy Officer at eBay.. lol. Goes to tell what shape eBay's privacy is in, and what to expect from that BS project.

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@atlovato@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@_elena @benroyce 👍

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Ben Ramsey
Ben Ramsey
@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@_elena @benroyce @Gargron They could have replaced “Eugen” with “Jack” and made a true statement because Jack did quit his own network (Bluesky) over the behavior of its users.

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Coach Pāṇini ®
Coach Pāṇini ®
@paninid@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@ramsey @_elena @benroyce @Gargron

Who says trollsmanship has no pro-social value?

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Kid Mania
Kid Mania
@clintruin@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron
"JoURnaliSM"

A Simpsons meme. Ralph Wiggum sits on a school bus. White words overtop: "I'M A JOURNALISM"
A Simpsons meme. Ralph Wiggum sits on a school bus. White words overtop: "I'M A JOURNALISM"
A Simpsons meme. Ralph Wiggum sits on a school bus. White words overtop: "I'M A JOURNALISM"
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Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤
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@sloanlance@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron
My favorite French press…

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Oblomov
@oblomov@sociale.network replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@_elena time to flood the article with comments about it.

@Gargron

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@KitsuneVixi@sakurajima.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@Gargron@mastodon.social Lawyer up. A claim like that can cause a lot of damage to the reputation of your hard work.

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@KitsuneVixi indeed

The chef's kiss is that according to LinkedIn, the author of the article has been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published numerous books.

This is not a 19-year-old intern casually writing about tech: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/françois-saltiel-42725334

@Gargron

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marxist-luiginist
@laxsill@social.spejset.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@_elena quit his own network? From what I can tell from following @Gargron , he seems both active in the platform and for the mastodon movement, a bit of a libelous statement

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Aaron 🥞
Aaron 🥞
@aaronmccollum@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@laxsill @_elena Yeah he stepped down from his job position but certainly didn’t quit Mastodon altogether. That was either lazy reporting or a poor interpretation of Eugene’s blog post. But he’s definitely still around.

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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
@NatureMC@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@aaronmccollum That's my impression too: it was a quick production because Zeiter's press release was on the table, so they quickly opened a blog page for a second structure, took a look, wrote something, and that was it.

These three-minute pieces are done under enormous time pressure. And very few listeners remember them afterwards.

@laxsill @_elena

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

my mother was a reporter and editor. she got me a part time job in high school at her newspaper

i've watched her work since i was in diapers and so i understand through her time pressure in journalism

but that is no defense for shoddy work

nor do people just forget

in fact the lies, intentional or unintentional, that appear in the press have debilitating effects on the common perception of truth

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@benroyce worth mentioning your Neil Postman connection too Ben for the extra cred 😉

The LinkedIn profile of that French journalist is really alarming because he's been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published several books on tech. He's a radio producer and host. It's shocking that he would share such blatant lies. Shocking I tell you!

He even has a Wikipedia page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Saltiel

@NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

François Saltiel — Wikipédia

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@_elena @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

Yup. NYU Media Ecology track Master of Arts grad here, Neil Postman was my thesis advisor

(now called the Media, Culture, and Communication dept, I'm old)

and François Saltiel needs to learn a little thing called integrity

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streetcoder
streetcoder
@streetcoder@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron WTF how dumb could they be or is it on purpose with an agenda and framing fake news.

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ticho
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@ticho@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@_elena I'm surprised this kind of stuff even reaches mainstream press, normally they try to ignore any "computer-stuff" not backed by large corporations.

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