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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

"Journalism" today

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Clu | #RipNatenom 🕯
Clu | #RipNatenom 🕯
@moskitokoenig@dizl.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 59 minutes ago

@_elena @Gargron Wow, this, well, article is... something. In German jurisprudence, I guess this would most likely fall under “false factual claims” and can have legal consequences for the author. As it is not “only” directed against one person, but against the network as a whole and can have very negative consequences, I would at least consider taking legal actions against this person.
The crucial point is: Is a lie being claimed as fact, or is it being expressed as opinion?

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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
@NatureMC@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@_elena I didn't listen to it, only read the text. I wouldn't judge all journalists based on one example.
He states: "Tout cela est très marketing pour W, qui saisit une fenêtre d’opportunité" and while talking about Zeiter's great experience in marketing and publicity he nails the big problem of Mastodon.

Mastodon has neither the money nor the human power for big lobbyism/marketing.
I know, Mastodon fans don't like to hear it but it's a fact. And the size of a network depends on

@Gargron

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Petra van Cronenburg
Petra van Cronenburg
@NatureMC@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@_elena how many politicians, organisations and journalists will join - because then the masses will join. If we want that is another question.

So yes, it's just one of these "quick" broadcast contributions where an author doesn't interview people directly (or did he?) and graps the informations on the desk. And these were definitively the press release/publicity of Zeiter ...

@Gargron

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Z_Zed_Zed
Z_Zed_Zed
@Z_Zed_Zed@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 44 minutes ago

@NatureMC @_elena @Gargron Is the lack of big capital a bug or a feature? I’m pretty sure most current users view it as a feature.

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 40 minutes ago

@Z_Zed_Zed @NatureMC @Gargron one of my favorite features to be honest (top 3!)

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Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
Ben Royce 🇺🇦 🇸🇩
@benroyce@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron

yup

#corporate " #journalism"

we are on #mastodon/ #fediverse because the profit motive in corporate #socialMedia means privacy defilement, free reign for bigotry/ ignorance, and #algorithm manipulation by #plutocracy agendas

the same applies to the #news #media:

#ventureCapital takes over dying traditional media outlets and puts right wing goons in the managing editor positions

we have nonprofit news ( #NPR, #ProPublica, #TheGuardian, etc)

trust them

all else: beware

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@benroyce perfectly said Ben!!! 🙌

I just found a video of the CEO of W Social at Davos literally going: "10 years ago we were saying that data is the new oil, but right now we say HIGH QUALITY data is the new oil."

To me it kind of reads like a confession / motivating force behind (1) creating W Social (2) using AT Proto for their "European alternative to X." Ouf.

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zbrando
zbrando
@zbrando@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@_elena @benroyce We don't need another silo...

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Dead Inside :arch:
Dead Inside :arch:
@deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffee replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@_elena That CEO used to be Chief Privacy Officer at eBay.. lol. Goes to tell what shape eBay's privacy is in, and what to expect from that BS project.

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atlovato
atlovato
@atlovato@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@_elena @benroyce 👍

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Ben Ramsey
Ben Ramsey
@ramsey@phpc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@_elena @benroyce @Gargron They could have replaced “Eugen” with “Jack” and made a true statement because Jack did quit his own network (Bluesky) over the behavior of its users.

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Coach Pāṇini ®
Coach Pāṇini ®
@paninid@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@ramsey @_elena @benroyce @Gargron

Who says trollsmanship has no pro-social value?

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Kid Mania
Kid Mania
@clintruin@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron
"JoURnaliSM"

A Simpsons meme. Ralph Wiggum sits on a school bus. White words overtop: "I'M A JOURNALISM"
A Simpsons meme. Ralph Wiggum sits on a school bus. White words overtop: "I'M A JOURNALISM"
A Simpsons meme. Ralph Wiggum sits on a school bus. White words overtop: "I'M A JOURNALISM"
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Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤
Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤
@sloanlance@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron
My favorite French press…

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Oblomov
Oblomov
@oblomov@sociale.network replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@_elena time to flood the article with comments about it.

@Gargron

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狐ヴィクシー
@KitsuneVixi@sakurajima.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@Gargron@mastodon.social Lawyer up. A claim like that can cause a lot of damage to the reputation of your hard work.

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@KitsuneVixi indeed

The chef's kiss is that according to LinkedIn, the author of the article has been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published numerous books.

This is not a 19-year-old intern casually writing about tech: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/françois-saltiel-42725334

@Gargron

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marxist-luiginist
marxist-luiginist
@laxsill@social.spejset.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@_elena quit his own network? From what I can tell from following @Gargron , he seems both active in the platform and for the mastodon movement, a bit of a libelous statement

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streetcoder
streetcoder
@streetcoder@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@_elena @Gargron WTF how dumb could they be or is it on purpose with an agenda and framing fake news.

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ticho
ticho
@ticho@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@_elena I'm surprised this kind of stuff even reaches mainstream press, normally they try to ignore any "computer-stuff" not backed by large corporations.

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