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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

Go to hell, Waymo: Why Waymo f*cked up in SF

My reading of their statement says that indeed it was traffic lights being out that caused the problems. Surprise - in some cases it appears that when Waymo vehicles hit dark traffic lights they require human confirmation from Waymo Master Control to decide how to proceed. They were overwhelmed on Saturday. And it sounds like Waymo now plans to
eliminate as much of that human oversight as possible going forward. What the bloody hell could go wrong with that? THEY'VE LEARNED NOTHING. Go the hell Waymo.

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Paul_IPv6
Paul_IPv6
@paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@lauren

so, waymo doesn't trust their code to really be automous like they claim, nor do they have the human staff to take any form of significant disaster or outage when their code fails to be autonomous.

great... can't wait until they're in DEN during some major snow storm. actually, i *could* wait. for years.

well done, waymo.

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Havyhh2
Havyhh2
@havvyhh2@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@lauren ...it has seem from the birth of the idea of driverless vehicles that is was a really, really stupid idea, fraught with nearly limitless dangers to humans nearby, whether in another vehicle, walking, standing, pccupying space in ground floor shop/cafe/etc. But beyond being stupid....why do it? What is it saving? What is it enhancing? For any positives, just feels like the negatives overwhelm them. Happy to be educated otherwise, of course....

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@havvyhh2 Understand the that driving force is government control over mobility. In a world of robocars, the government not only tracks all movement, but can prevent you from going where they don't want you to go, and take you where you don't want to go. That's really what's driving this. No pun intended. Law enforcement is drooling over this tech. Pure fascism, courtesy of the Big Tech Billionaire CEOs.

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Jestbill
Jestbill
@Jestbill@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@lauren @havvyhh2 LOL.
Isaac Asimov be damned!

In one of his stories the local law enforcement had to re-invent surveillance by asking the cars who was riding and where they went.

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1337 $#!+ I did that
1337 $#!+ I did that
@stalbaum@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 days ago

@lauren @havvyhh2 that is so different from #Uber, because there is a low wage worker in the car who will definitely drive you where you want to go without any violation of your privacy, right? No way the #lyft app would refuse a request to ride to a protest, or sell their records to #Palantir? The guardians of democracy, the public transport fast pass because, no data. Right?

We do need to do something about the #Ring and #Flock and #location protections. Laws. We need laws!

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GhostOnTheHalfShell
GhostOnTheHalfShell
@GhostOnTheHalfShell@masto.ai replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@lauren

Like I said in reaction to the massive traffic jams, they caused during the blackout and ones that they’ve caused before as well. Every vehicle that interfered with the flow of traffic needs to be impounded.. I don’t know if these vehicles can handle down signal light autonomously, although stop sign rules apply.

They still hate them. It’s like the day after the blackout I saw one roll through a stop sign only halting when it was halfway through in the intersection

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