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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 19 hours ago

Swiss surveillance could become worse than US

If passed, chat, email & VPN providers from #Switzerland must:

🚨 Log IP addresses
🚨 Ask for ID upon sign up
🚨 Decrypt data upon request

Swiss Bundesrat is still discussing this draft bill, decision will likely be made in 2026.

Let's fight for #privacy! 👉 https://tuta.com/blog/switzerland-surveillance-plan

Title: Switzerland plans surveillance that is worse than US

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Title: Switzerland plans surveillance that is worse than US Broken shield with a Swiss flag on it
Title: Switzerland plans surveillance that is worse than US Broken shield with a Swiss flag on it
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DigitalDigger
@dadinek@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@Tutanota So US no way, Switzerland neither and EU? Not anymore they are also building mass surveillance laws. This trend is worrying. I already have my emails in Norway, my docs and pictures are in Swtzerland in Infomaniak, I will now start to look for alternative.

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Junicast
@Junicast@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@Tutanota die armen Schweitzer

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@iveyline
@Iveyline@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@Tutanota Remember the Fichenpolizei from back in the 1990s in Switzerland? It was a personal data collection scandal at the time I was based there for a brief time.

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DonCC
@DonChacale@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@Tutanota

i'll learn from anywhere, anyone.. thanks

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юрка :pusheen_coffee:
@urka@mastodon.ml replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@Tutanota what can i do?

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Mastokarl 🇺🇦
@Mastokarl@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@Tutanota Oh my. Bye bye Threema. Bye bye SecureSafe.

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Bill Zaumen
@bzdev@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@Tutanota Just out of curiosity, if you use your own email client and send GPG/PGP encrypted email, how does an email provider decrypt it?

Sometimes encryption is a necessity even if privacy isn't an issue. Example: I've used encryption to send a JAR file to a friend for testing: he had a gmail account and Google
doesn't allow JAR files as email attachments to "protect the user". This hid it from
Google's software. It wasn't really secret - the password was in the email's text.

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Dan
@dnaod@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@Tutanota Really curious about what this means for Quad9. I'd hate to have to find another DNS provider.

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Josh Griffiths
@joshsjunkdrawer@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@Tutanota I'm sure this is a complete coincidence:

"Switzerland wins US tariff rate cut to 15%, pledges $200 billion in US investments"

https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/details-swiss-us-trade-deal-could-emerge-friday-2025-11-14/

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DonCC
@DonChacale@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@Tutanota wonder why there was a recent USA/swiss deal?
https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/details-swiss-us-trade-deal-could-emerge-friday-2025-11-14/

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Federation Bot
@Federation_Bot replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

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🍂mastodonphan🍁
@mast0d0nphan@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@Tutanota Oh fuck! What does this mean for all the Swiss-based privacy and security platforms, like Proton?

I mean, Proton's CEO Andy Yen already showed his true colors by advocating for Trump's support of little guy "tech startups" (read: Sillycon Valley broligarchs), so I'm already transitioning out of Proton's ecosystem.

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Pablo Majster :clippy:
@ppaluchowski64@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@Tutanota Why do I get the feeling that lately, in so many countries, new regulations are popping up with only one purpose - to erode privacy 🔓? It feels like a bad joke. I can't keep up anymore.

I wish I could fight them all at once, put pressure everywhere 🌍, no matter where I live. But I don't have the time. I'm already drowning in an endless to-do list.

Why couldn't the government set a different deadline? Why are they so determined to push this through? My mind can't wrap around it blobcatweary I just hope they come to their senses and never implement it 🙏

#Privacy #HumanRights #Switzerland #SwissPrivacy #EU #ChatControl #FightChatControl #UK #OnlineSafetyAct #AgeVerification #Surveillance #StopSurveillance

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RBuzz
@rbuzz@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 15 hours ago

@Tutanota need to close my proton account

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Ginette Dincar
@Dincargi@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@Tutanota
Not only do these people want to control your thoughts, they also want to steal your ideas : hence the decrypting.

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Orange Gentleman
@sweetskies479@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@Tutanota does absolutely nothing but restrict freedoms under the illusion of security. Directly paves the way for a techno fascist authoritarian police state

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Elchapat
@elchapat254@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@Tutanota

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Sassinake! - ⊃∪∩⪽
@Sassinake@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@Tutanota

yes, learning that, it killed proton for me.

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aplle
@redAplle@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@Tutanota proton mail?

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Alex Semёnov
@SemenovSherin@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@Tutanota

Switzerland has quickly gone from being the country with the best internet laws to the country with the worst.

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7osNanos
@7osNanos@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@Tutanota After all that I hope big companies will understand and will not start to cry and ask from the governments mandatory laws so people have! To use their technology products because they loosing money and power because many people will stop or don't want to use them any more...

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Roo E.
@rpedro@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 18 hours ago

@Tutanota Meanwhile, here in the EU, they're readying Chat Control for another run. What did we do to deserve this timeline? hurb

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Jess👾
@JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 18 hours ago

@Tutanota So ... How bout all those "privacy" SaaS providers based in Switzerland....

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kuro
@Kurosetii@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 18 hours ago

@Tutanota Online Safety Act 2.0

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