@EUCommission Simple: If the license allows it. And remember NC means non commercial.

So pay for it or only use free material.

@EUCommission reminder that all comments here have to be included into the EU plateform to be taken into account

RE: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/117381410942959608

[1/2] @EUCommission Europe has already given up, right? Why bother asking?

Many bands around us have used Creative Common licenses, usually BY-NC-SA, for more than 20 years.
Reasons:

BY (attribution right) means that people can copy, download our songs for their own consumption without being bothered by right-holders .

SA (share alike) means that you need to ask for permission to make any derivative work (we have never refused a remix).

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@EUCommission the only tolerable conditions are either using content whose license explicitly allows commercial derivative works (public domain, some variants of creative commons but then you also have to comply with the obligation to mention the original author), or obtaining a license for that. As the laws already specify. It's really simple and it's insulting to see governments and institutions think there is any debate.

@EUCommission Two very simple things: CONSENT and MONEY. They have stolen everything. They have destroyed books, stolen art etc. Make them pay and make them accountable for every thing they have stolen. Royalties for everything used and written consent from every artist/author/scientist/etc that have their work stolen and stuff they still want to use. No consent? Then work removed. Cannot be more simple. You would arrest a simple burglar/thief. So why not ai companies and their ownwers/ceo's?

@EUCommission If everything that’s made with it is free of copyright and available as free and open source. Not just the model weights; all of it. So Antrophic, OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, etc., are forced to release all their software as free software.

In other words, if we get rid of copyright altogether for everyone and all tech and all information enters the commons. Of course, that would also take implementing universal basic income, universal healthcare, housing, etc. (i.e., a proper social safety net).

(You’ll never legislate for anything remotely approaching that. You’re just shilling for Big Tech. And no matter what anyone says, you’re going to do what’s in your neoliberal interests, like always. Like you’re doing with Chat Control.)

@EUCommission sollte nur erlaubt sein, wenn LLMs vergesellschaftet sind, d.h. unter öffentlicher Kontrolle und ohne Gewinnabsichten.
Abgesehen davon: die real existierenden LLMs haben bereits alles Wissen reingesogen, was es so gibt auf der Welt. Mit eurer Fragestellung seid ihr um Jahre zu spät.

@EUCommission if the bot is trained on copyright, it can pay royalties for every output it generates

@EUCommission

Quatsch , nur auf Englisch
Vielleicht sollte die Kommission zuerst ihre eigenen Regeln einhalten.

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I see a "slight" mismatch.
Why should AI companies be able to train their models with copyright-protected content for free, while people have to pay to train their minds with copyright-protected content? If copyright laws apply, both should pay. If they don't apply, neither of them should pay.

@EUCommission Under no circumstance without license.

@EUCommission

La commission commence à nous les briser menu en ne respectant pas ses propres règles

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@EUCommission simply apply the basic copyright maybe ?

Using copyrighted material = illegal.

@EUCommission I am not sure about this. Every person who ever lived learned what they know from someone else's work. Oppenheimer-Einstein-Newton etc.. If we build a tool, shouldnt it be the best tool that it can be?