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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

RE: https://infosec.exchange/@Laukidh/116026768953675644

Handy info to iPhone users:

When you go through an airport or meet the police, press the power button and either volume button for three seconds. This puts your phone in a state where it can only be unlocked with your passcode.

So if anyone ever tells you to hand over your phone, you can do this immediately and prevent them from unlocking it with your face.

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Primetime
Primetime
@Primetime@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl I am considering setting up a seperate travel phone to use when going outside the EU. My real phone gets left at home. This phone would have a minimal amount of information in cases of a border check demanding I unlock the phone - I could then just comply without any real risk.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

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Greg Sullivan
Greg Sullivan
@gregwardo@c.im  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl on mine it’s just the volume down and power

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Bianca
Bianca
@ZuilenV@mastodon.nl  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl better: do not use face ID….

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@ZuilenV what do you think is a better alternative?

I do not like using an access code, because if I am in a public space, a thief could see me entering the access cod, then steal my phone and use the code to access it.

If I use face id, a thief can run off with my phone, but he cannot access my data.

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Osma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦
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@osma@mas.to  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

This is more inconsistent and erratic on Androids, but usually volume-down and power, held down for a couple of seconds, does activate a screen where "Lockdown mode" can be turned on. If you don't hold them down, the same keypress may instead take a screenshot.

Exit lockdown with your passcode. Biometrics and voice activation are disabled, background apps stopped and notifications hidden while in lockdown.
@randahl

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Samson - tief In Berlin
Samson - tief In Berlin
@SamsenBdRi@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl
In the US, I'd say: You're not getting my phone. There's no search warrant or demonstrable imminent danger. Otherwise, it'll be expensive, gentlemen, very expensive. Smartphones enjoy special protection in USA.

In Germany, all I get afterwards is a "Sorry!"

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ShadSterling
ShadSterling
@ShadSterling@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl iOS settings also allow disabling biometric device unlock while still allowing biometric id for other actions like app logins

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JackMex
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@JackMexa4@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl

A migrant in a tt I watch told about a device that agents plug into a phone and then have full access and may create a complete copy of all the information.

Idk if agents have such a device.

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Wulfy
Wulfy
@n_dimension@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl

In #Australia it's a criminal offences not to unlock your device.
Punishable by up to ten years in jail.

But then we are a criminal colony....still

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@n_dimension only if the police has a warrant. An Australian police officer cannot just walk up to any random person and ask to see the contents of their phone.

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Wulfy
Wulfy
@n_dimension@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl

Sorry, I meant at border crossings.

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@n_dimension wow. So if I come as a tourist Australia requires access to my phone?

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Wulfy
Wulfy
@n_dimension@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl

Its actually more nuanced (I looked it up) still not good news.

https://www.caldicottlawyers.com.au/border-force-customs-phone-search

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Randahl Fink
Randahl Fink
@randahl@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@n_dimension glad to see it involves a warrant. Anything less would certainly hold me out of Australia.

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...a pleasant rascal
...a pleasant rascal
@Nead@social.vivaldi.net  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl If you use bio-metrics, you've already handed over the keys to someone out there - in the form of a finger print, your facial features, or your eye's (iris) blueprint. This is a false sense of security. People protect their Social Security Number with more vigor than a scanned finger print!

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Swifty the Shrew
Swifty the Shrew
@menyku@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl Or simply not use the face/thumbprint garbage in the first place.

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Lightfighter
Lightfighter
@Lightfighter@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl On current Android phones a long press on the power button gives the option for "Lock down" mode. This turns off biometrics.

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J.P. Wing
J.P. Wing
@machias@mstdn.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl honestly, if someone demanded my phone, not only would I do this, I’d also forcefully drop it on the floor.

No one asks for wallets or purses, why on earth would I even chance someone having access to my entire life via my phone.

The hell with that.

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Kevin Russell
Kevin Russell
@kevinrns@mstdn.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl

Please boost this to your iPhone-using friends and accounts.

#ice #iphone #security #phoneLocks #nokings #dems

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Beachbum
Beachbum
@Beachbum@mastodon.sdf.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@randahl I don’t use any biometrics but this is good advice for those who do.

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