Wouldn't Matrix be more modern and more recommendable?
@daniel never used WA, SIGNAL with some people, feeling at home with #matrix ( #fluffy on ubuntu touch and Linux), being in #conversations with nobody (just once in a while - I guess people feel strangely alone there although I like it!) and testing #skred with somebody.
@daniel Federation is not a solution to low-quality apps (I’m on iOS so this is not about your app), inferior protocols and un-safe fallbacks.
@daniel #Signal is bridge technology. Today, you cannot tell non-techie people to choose from a #XMPP provider on their own, because they would have struggle to do so.
I suggest we continue delivering basic IT knowledge to those who are interested and ask things. All the others are doomed in any case.
@daniel Exactly. It doesn't feed them in the short term (that's what many people want).
@ben DeltaChat and #Conversations_im are significantly closer aligned in ideology than Signal and Conversations.
When it comes to protocol design and governance I still have a favorite though.
@daniel I CANNOT wait for Molly to introduce servers of their own... There's been talks of this for month's by now.