Are you looking for a better approach to federated chat than #Matrix or #XMPP? I'm working on #Chatterbox, a simple, straightforward federated chat protocol that, ideally, will be more user-friendly (and developer-friendly) than either.

https://adam.nels.onl/blog/chatterbox-federated-chat-that-doesnt-suck/

The blog post links to a gist with the full API specification, in a single well-commented Protobuf file.

I'm working on a reference server that should be available soon. Follow the hashtag if you're interested in updates.

jbz
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Speaking of Matrix global services occasionally exacerbating one's propensity for migraines, oh look a total outage for the malignant design... oh but they tell everyone a fantastic story:

> "Matrix is a distributed fault tolerated encrypted network of disaggregated nodes!" 😐

except that they deployed via an active/passive two node PostgreSQL backend which just crashed both nodes and took 55TB of network data offline. also their TLS termination is fronted by CloudFlare (anything in back of TLS termination is not TLS encrypted).

- https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/03/matrixorg_raid_failure/

#matrix #chat #networking #linux #encryption#thisIsNotHighAvailability

deutrino
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I'm pouring out a drink for the administrators of the Matrix.org homeserver who are looking to be in for a rough night after major database corruption. Best of luck with the restore, it'll probably be their longest outage for many years.
This does highlight the issues with federated platforms where a large majority stay on one server. Had more people been encouraged to spread out onto other (unaffected) servers, the impact would be far less.
#matrix #matrixchat #matrixadmin #selfhosting

deutrino
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#MatrixDown: So, is the main issue of #Matrix too many users using the main instance, a condition actively pushed by #Vector, creating half-centralized ecosystem?

Is it the issue that #Matrix servers are a overly complex and resource hungry systems, which are hard to administrate and even harder to troubleshoot? 🤔

Or is it a combination of these problems? Hmmm. 👀

#Messenger#Federation#Decentralize#XMPP

#MatrixDown: So, is the main issue of #Matrix too many users using the main instance, a condition actively pushed by #Vector, creating half-centralized ecosystem?

Is it the issue that #Matrix servers are a overly complex and resource hungry systems, which are hard to administrate and even harder to troubleshoot? 🤔

Or is it a combination of these problems? Hmmm. 👀

#Messenger#Federation#Decentralize#XMPP

Speaking of Matrix global services occasionally exacerbating one's propensity for migraines, oh look a total outage for the malignant design... oh but they tell everyone a fantastic story:

> "Matrix is a distributed fault tolerated encrypted network of disaggregated nodes!" 😐

except that they deployed via an active/passive two node PostgreSQL backend which just crashed both nodes and took 55TB of network data offline. also their TLS termination is fronted by CloudFlare (anything in back of TLS termination is not TLS encrypted).

- https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/03/matrixorg_raid_failure/

#matrix #chat #networking #linux #encryption#thisIsNotHighAvailability

I'm pouring out a drink for the administrators of the Matrix.org homeserver who are looking to be in for a rough night after major database corruption. Best of luck with the restore, it'll probably be their longest outage for many years.
This does highlight the issues with federated platforms where a large majority stay on one server. Had more people been encouraged to spread out onto other (unaffected) servers, the impact would be far less.
#matrix #matrixchat #matrixadmin #selfhosting

In case you weren't aware, #Fedify has both #Discord and #Matrix communities where you can get help, discuss features, or just chat about #ActivityPub and federated social networks.

Feel free to join either community based on your preference. Both channels have active discussions about Fedify and federation topics.

#fedidev

Guten Abend zusammen,

ich überlege seit Längerem einen eigenen kleinen Server anzuschaffen, um z.B. Daten auf verschiedenen PCs zu synchronisieren, ihn als Cloud zu benutzen #NextCloud und meine private Kommunikation darüber laufen zu lassen #matrix #elementx .
Kennt sich damit jemand aus und weiß woher man online gute Informationen dazu bekommt? Z.B. zu Verschlüsselung, Sicherheit, Management des Systems, etc.

Ich würde mich sehr über Hinweise freuen. Gerne teilen :)

#unplugtrump

Guten Abend zusammen,

ich überlege seit Längerem einen eigenen kleinen Server anzuschaffen, um z.B. Daten auf verschiedenen PCs zu synchronisieren, ihn als Cloud zu benutzen #NextCloud und meine private Kommunikation darüber laufen zu lassen #matrix #elementx .
Kennt sich damit jemand aus und weiß woher man online gute Informationen dazu bekommt? Z.B. zu Verschlüsselung, Sicherheit, Management des Systems, etc.

Ich würde mich sehr über Hinweise freuen. Gerne teilen :)

#unplugtrump

https://cn.dmi.unibas.ch/en/
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Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Computer Networks Group

The Computer Networks Group researches and develops distributed infrastructure for secure communication and computation at all levels of the networking stack. Our past activities include work on sensor networks, autonomic operations of networks, bio- and chemically-inspired networking, as well as mobile code. Currently our main focus is on survivable computing.

https://p2p-basel.org

The aim of the P2P Basel workshop is to bring together researchers and software builders to share insights and collaborate towards the sound and sustainable development of efficient eventually-consistent (offline-first) peer-to-peer systems. Examples of related projects of interest are Secure #Scuttlebutt , DAT/Hypercore , Cabal , #Tox, BitMessage , #IPFS , Socket Supply co., #OrbitDB , Earthstar , Willow , #Nostr , #Holochain , #P2Panda , #GNUnet , #Hyphanet , #Freenet , #Zeronet , #Retroshare , #NextGraph , #Web3 , #serverless , #maidsafe , #matrix , Other P2P projects that are based on stronger consistency models, such as Mass Market are also of interest.

Shortly before migrating some things back from #Matrix to #XMPP, I experienced first-hand what a shitshow group chats on the network are. If you are exposed to targeted spam attacks of some idiots, XMPP gives you not a single effective tool to handle it. Yet, XMPP fanboys walk around here telling people how bad moderation on Matrix is virtually all day.