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Do you know of a community that could use their own Federated mapping server? Please DM me.

In six weeks, I've made TONS of progress on Atlas Maps, and I'm confident with real people using it in the field.

https://atlasdemo.emissary.social

So I spent this morning reaching out to a handful of integrators and consultants, but I can't find everyone.

Please help me reach out to the activists, builders, and organizers you know who need to map local events in their communities.

Who should I contact next?

abeorch

@abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es replied · 3 days ago

Is there anything that I could do to help @benpate

Federation Bot

@Federation_Bot replied · 3 days ago

@benpate

This is so cool! Original idea, and the execution looks really good.

I hope the best possible future for this!

abeorch

@abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es replied · 3 days ago

@benpate #Friendica seems a fairly general purpose almost Facebook replacement (if you can get your friends to join) - But I get your idea of federating location in a controlled way (I like Friendica because of its built in focus on thinking about who you are sharing stuff with ) I also like the idea that it includes location and events (thought I think they are still being developed)

moji

@moji@dresden.network replied · 3 days ago

@benpate cool. definitely has the potential for some interesting use cases.

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@benpate@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@moji Agreed! I'm reaching out to orgs that I can find, and I'd love if you could help me identify others who can make the best use of this :)

abeorch

@abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es replied · 3 days ago

@benpate @moji I'm trying to understand the value of #emissary vs the #Atlas implementation - I can see that having something that allows you to standup federated sharing across multiple activity types for multiple domains / organisations / groups makes sense but i'm immediately thinking that use cases are inevtiablly going to involve integrations with many other systems.

Michal Špondr

@michal@spondr.cz replied · 3 days ago

@benpate This is great! One day Fediverse will have its own version of Foursquare/Swarm. :)

Helge

@helge@mymath.rocks replied · 3 days ago

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Are you trying to be an interoperability problem creating jokster?

Also UNCHAIN THE BUFFALO. If I was in college, I would now lobby to steal UC Boulder's mascot, so I get something cute to cuddle.

Helge

@helge@mymath.rocks replied · 3 days ago

"UC Boulder" ... I apologize. It's CU Boulder.

Tanguy ⧓ Herrmann

@dolanor@hachyderm.io replied · 3 days ago

@benpate I'm trying to use it. There is this thing where you can put qrcode with a fediverse account, but you can only create a new pin with an atlas account?

Seth of the Fediverse

@phillycodehound@indieweb.social replied · 3 days ago

@benpate this looks epic!

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@benpate@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@phillycodehound

Thank you 😊 I know there are some great uses for something like this, so I'm putting it out there about 1/4 baked. That way, we can let real people with specific needs guide it the rest of the way home.

If you know anyone who'd like to set up their own Atlas, let me know, or send them my way 🤘🏻

Seth of the Fediverse

@phillycodehound@indieweb.social replied · 3 days ago

@benpate will do absolutely. Is there a page you want me to link to from FediverseResources.com?

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@benpate@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@phillycodehound

I wasn't planning on hosting a permanent site for Atlas, probably just the Github page or something.

But fuck it.

I just registered https://AtlasMaps.org which will redirect to the demo page for now, and we can fill in more as we need. It might take a few minutes for the DNS to propagate, but that's probably the best URL to share 😇

Andrés (personal views)

@amunizp@fosstodon.org replied · 3 days ago

@benpate not sure if it is related and maybe a bit far (UK) from you but this org and co-op have been creating several similar apps. Maybe you can help each other?

https://www.sharedassets.org.uk/

https://digitalcommons.coop/

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@benpate@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@amunizp Thank you! I'm checking them out now.

It's great for the ecosystem if we have many technologies that accomplish the same goal. But it's also good if we can all speak the same "language" -- even if we all have different accents ;)

I'm going to see how we can make progress together 🤘🏻

The Nexus of Privacy

@thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange replied · 3 days ago

@benpate really interesting! any thoughts about how this could integrate with events (mobilizon/gancio etc)?

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@benpate@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@thenexusofprivacy

Yes. Both of these are on my radar -- particularly Gancio, because it would also help out the #Bandwagon project.

Basically, everything is #ActivityPub, so we should just be able to crawl other sites for the posts they publish. It may take a little work to discover posts and to massage them into the right format (Mobilizon's address formats make me sad) but all the plumbing is already there.

Tanguy ⧓ Herrmann

@dolanor@hachyderm.io replied · 3 days ago

@benpate @thenexusofprivacy what's wrong with mobilizon's address format?

Jérôme

@jerome@jasette.facil.services replied · 4 days ago

@benpate
thanks for this!

if i choose to follow a map with a mastodon account, what do I see? basically any new point on the map would be showing up in my feed?

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@benpate@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@jerome

Yes.

Map queries (including text, hashtags, and geo-coordinates) are full fledged ActivityPub actors that you can follow from any Mastodon account.

Any new Placemarks (added by anyone on the server) are relayed to followers' inboxes in real time.

Jérôme

@jerome@jasette.facil.services replied · 3 days ago

@benpate tagging @showuptoronto

I know not all events have publically accessible addresses, but that might be interesting to have a fediverse-enabled map of events

https://showuptoronto.ca

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@benpate@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@jerome @showuptoronto

Thank you for the suggestion! I'm reaching out to them now. If Atlas might be useful to them, I'll be happy to work out the bumps.

Johanna, CanCon variety

@johannab@cosocial.ca replied · 4 days ago

@benpate

Ben, this is awesome. I am at this exact moment waffling between a couple of options willing to donate hosting for a few months so I can start a prototype "community fediverse stack" idea (the digital-third-spaces tear I've been on for just short of a year). Geo-social representations are conceptually really vital to the whole idea.

Is Atlas ready yet for a sandbox/small community to mess around with? If so, what's the hosting demand?

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@benpate@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@johannab

Yes, I think Atlas is ready for [a technical someone] to mess around with.. I wouldn't ask my Mom to run it, but if you can set up a WordPress site, you should be able to install and launch Emissary + Atlas.

And if you'd like to try, I'd love to help you, so you certainly wouldn't have to work it out alone.

Hosting-wise, Atlas it is very light, requiring MongoDB and FFmpeg. I'm writing a startup guide now, which will lay out all the technical spects.

Wanna set up a call to chat?

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