I don't remember the two first seasons of the show annoying me this much... Did I raised my standard or are those first few episodes really not that great ?
Yeah this ending sucks... It was obvious from the start the wormhole would be unusable for Voyager.
But the worst part of this is... They could have escaped. They could have actually be sending crew member back for the whole time, communicate with home which was a big issue in a previous episode. The Wormhole was stable enough that they though they could finish their business with the Ferengi and not immediately rush toward it the moment they beamed them aboard.
They should have just not bother with the wormhole, because it's just a giant plot hole.
comes to think of it, this could make a good episode of Red Dwarf...
"Holly, what is this space anomaly?"
"It's a plot hole, Dave."
This is stupid, they all could have jumped in the wormhole before letting a single occasion for the Ferengi to escape...
Yeah this ending sucks... It was obvious from the start the wormhole would be unusable for Voyager.
But the worst part of this is... They could have escaped. They could have actually be sending crew member back for the whole time, communicate with home which was a big issue in a previous episode. The Wormhole was stable enough that they though they could finish their business with the Ferengi and not immediately rush toward it the moment they beamed them aboard.
They should have just not bother with the wormhole, because it's just a giant plot hole.
The idea that people from a "superior" culture can come and easily use the superstition of an "inferior" culture to manipulate an entire population is wrong, racist and rooted in seriously repulsive colonialism.
It's not a problem specific to Star Trek, but Star Trek regularly indulge in it, and it sucks.
This is stupid, they all could have jumped in the wormhole before letting a single occasion for the Ferengi to escape...
The way Star Trek depict "primitive" people is frankly insulting.
The idea that people from a "superior" culture can come and easily use the superstition of an "inferior" culture to manipulate an entire population is wrong, racist and rooted in seriously repulsive colonialism.
It's not a problem specific to Star Trek, but Star Trek regularly indulge in it, and it sucks.
I don't know why Neelix revealing himself is changing anything for the Ferengi... They could have just killed him and not care.
The way Star Trek depict "primitive" people is frankly insulting.
Yeah Ok, I recognise the voice. Took me too long.
I don't know why Neelix revealing himself is changing anything for the Ferengi... They could have just killed him and not care.
Did they really send a probe to the Alpha Quadrant and stayed behind?
That seems unlikely that Janeway would have passed the opportunity to send a maximum of people back home given the chance.
Yeah Ok, I recognise the voice. Took me too long.
She is playing the "we're only cleaning up Picard's mess" card. Which... Ok, fair. But your attitude is nevertheless noted Kathryn.
Did they really send a probe to the Alpha Quadrant and stayed behind?
That seems unlikely that Janeway would have passed the opportunity to send a maximum of people back home given the chance.
Yes, Tuvok is right.
I mean, I prefer if Janeway decide to remove the Ferengi from the place, but this is not Voyager's mission and Janeway have been uninterested with helping exploited people in literally the last episode.
I guess the Prime Directive doesn't really apply when Ferengi are concerned but I'm pretty sure there is a degree of xenophoia in her choice to help some people or not.
She is playing the "we're only cleaning up Picard's mess" card. Which... Ok, fair. But your attitude is nevertheless noted Kathryn.
Oh so now you care about people being exploited Kathryn ?
Yes, Tuvok is right.
I mean, I prefer if Janeway decide to remove the Ferengi from the place, but this is not Voyager's mission and Janeway have been uninterested with helping exploited people in literally the last episode.
I guess the Prime Directive doesn't really apply when Ferengi are concerned but I'm pretty sure there is a degree of xenophoia in her choice to help some people or not.
So this is Picard's fault? Damn you ,Picard!!! ✊
Oh so now you care about people being exploited Kathryn ?
I mean, at this point, Paris and Chakotey could just leave. The federation have nothing to do with whatever the fuck is happening here.
So this is Picard's fault? Damn you ,Picard!!! ✊
#startrek #StarTrekVoyager Oh fuck... Of course it's the Ferengi...
I mean, at this point, Paris and Chakotey could just leave. The federation have nothing to do with whatever the fuck is happening here.
Ok so the trouble with introucing a potential link to the alpha quadrant in the 5th episode of the season is... At no point we are invested in this story line because we know it' gonna fail.
I guess you could play with dramatic irony, but this is not really what this episode is going for.
#startrek #StarTrekVoyager Oh fuck... Of course it's the Ferengi...
Ok so the trouble with introucing a potential link to the alpha quadrant in the 5th episode of the season is... At no point we are invested in this story line because we know it' gonna fail.
I guess you could play with dramatic irony, but this is not really what this episode is going for.
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I begin to see why Voyager isn't more liked. The politics of the show seems dule compared to TNG... (I don't think it would be fair yo compare it to ds9 in that regard.)
That plus the lack of... Lasting concequences on a ship far from home where every injuries or avaries should have a lasting impact, and the separation of Starfleet vs Maquis which is mostly ignored... This shows is a waste.
And it makes me want that they did a remake of it instead of getting SNW. Although they probably never will, because they don't do remake in the franchise.
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I guess the heroization is kinda unavoidable. But havnig multiple hero at the same time makes them less special.
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Ah so it was a parasite. Kinda disappointing. Also it means Neelix was responsible for the situation ? It's not actually clear how Tuvo got the parasite.
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Well that was a good episode. It was cool to revisite the old movie. It didn't need to be a cameo, but it led to interesting discussion. The downside of this is that it somewhat make Star Trek about its legendary character, which I think is unfortunate.
One of the good thing about TNG, D9 and Voyager is that they happen in the same time period. (Yes TNG is solo for 7 seasons, but the rest follow soon after)
It makes you feel that Picard wasn't the only great captain of his time, by opposition to TOS when even when Sulu become a captain, he is still a tier bellow Kirk. ( I mean the way he is presented )
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It's not a virus, it's the mind of the other episode, isn't it?
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Ah so it was a parasite. Kinda disappointing. Also it means Neelix was responsible for the situation ? It's not actually clear how Tuvo got the parasite.