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Pete Orrall
@peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@stefano This is indeed a great post. Refreshing to read - the author didn't distro-bash but instead highlighted how needs were met.

I have been leaning toward #FreeBSD after 20 years on #Debian, which has a special place in my heart. However, FreeBSD's *consistency*, elegant design, and better documentation are driving factors and I just can't look away.

Over these two decades, Linux has definitely changed. It's no longer what it once was: a #Unix clone. It's evolved into its own thing. Software does that and that's OK. But a lot of the changes or "improvements" have been needlessly reinventing the wheel with a worsening user experience and convoluted results. The audio subsystems (ALSA -> PulseAudio -> Pipewire and of course the mess that is/was JACK) and #SystemD are two big examples.

On SystemD, I don't disagree that Linux needed a modern init system. SystemD is faster, but from a human perspective it's worse. I am now typing *more* characters to manage services. Is there a reason why it couldn't be designed to manage services like:

> $SERVICE start/stop/restart

Instead, we are left with:

> systemctl $SERVICE start/stop/restart

But I digress.

#TBT I fell in love with FreeBSD when I first started my Linux journey in the mid-2000s, but only dabbled in it as it was never in any production environment I managed.

I have a FreeBSD VM sitting in my lab somewhere but due to other factors rarely do I get to it. I'm thinking it's time I grab a spare laptop, load it up, and use it as a daily driver to really force myself to learn it.

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Stefano Marinelli
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

RE: https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@gumnos/115551343732704834

This is a great post.
It's not "against" something - it just explains why Tim prefers to use the BSDs.

#RunBSD #FreeBSD #NetBSD #OpenBSD #DragonflyBSD #IT

Pete Orrall
@peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@stefano This is indeed a great post. Refreshing to read - the author didn't distro-bash but instead highlighted how needs were met.

I have been leaning toward #FreeBSD after 20 years on #Debian, which has a special place in my heart. However, FreeBSD's *consistency*, elegant design, and better documentation are driving factors and I just can't look away.

Over these two decades, Linux has definitely changed. It's no longer what it once was: a #Unix clone. It's evolved into its own thing. Software does that and that's OK. But a lot of the changes or "improvements" have been needlessly reinventing the wheel with a worsening user experience and convoluted results. The audio subsystems (ALSA -> PulseAudio -> Pipewire and of course the mess that is/was JACK) and #SystemD are two big examples.

On SystemD, I don't disagree that Linux needed a modern init system. SystemD is faster, but from a human perspective it's worse. I am now typing *more* characters to manage services. Is there a reason why it couldn't be designed to manage services like:

> $SERVICE start/stop/restart

Instead, we are left with:

> systemctl $SERVICE start/stop/restart

But I digress.

#TBT I fell in love with FreeBSD when I first started my Linux journey in the mid-2000s, but only dabbled in it as it was never in any production environment I managed.

I have a FreeBSD VM sitting in my lab somewhere but due to other factors rarely do I get to it. I'm thinking it's time I grab a spare laptop, load it up, and use it as a daily driver to really force myself to learn it.

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@h4ckernews@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

A brief look at FreeBSD

https://yorickpeterse.com/articles/a-brief-look-at-freebsd/

#HackerNews #FreeBSD #Technology #OpenSource #Unix #SystemAdministration

A brief look at FreeBSD

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Alfonso Siciliano
@alfonsosiciliano@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

#Lesson of the day: I waste time searching for a solution #online, then ask #AI, which gives me “wonderful” but completely wrong results. In the end, I read the official #documentation and solve it in a few seconds:

1. https://man.freebsd.org/tcsh/1 > 2. Ctrl-f > 3. type "redirect" > 4. "The shell cannot presently redirect diagnostic output without also redirecting standard output, but `(command > output-file) >& error-file' is often an acceptable workaround. ..."

#Documentation #UNIX #FreeBSD #Shell #scripting #terminal #tcsh #fixing

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Alfonso Siciliano
@alfonsosiciliano@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

#Lesson of the day: I waste time searching for a solution #online, then ask #AI, which gives me “wonderful” but completely wrong results. In the end, I read the official #documentation and solve it in a few seconds:

1. https://man.freebsd.org/tcsh/1 > 2. Ctrl-f > 3. type "redirect" > 4. "The shell cannot presently redirect diagnostic output without also redirecting standard output, but `(command > output-file) >& error-file' is often an acceptable workaround. ..."

#Documentation #UNIX #FreeBSD #Shell #scripting #terminal #tcsh #fixing

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HP van Braam
@hp@mastodon.tmm.cx  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

Wow, after installing #solaris 2.5.1 on my #sun ultra 10, I can really see why people loved these old #Unix workstations.

It's so easy to develop some software on this!

#retrocomputing #visualbasic

A picture of two Ultra 10 sun workstations stacked on top of each other. Next to it is a monitor that shows a CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of two Ultra 10 sun workstations stacked on top of each other. Next to it is a monitor that shows a CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of two Ultra 10 sun workstations stacked on top of each other. Next to it is a monitor that shows a CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of a Solaris CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of a Solaris CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of a Solaris CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
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Rob Ricci
@ricci@discuss.systems  ·  activity timestamp last week

While cleaning a storage room, our staff found this tape containing #UNIX v4 from Bell Labs, circa 1973

Apparently no other complete copies are known to exist: https://gunkies.org/wiki/UNIX_Fourth_Edition

We have arranged to deliver it to the Computer History Museum

#retrocomputing

An old reel to reel magnetic tape. It has a label, in Jay Lepreau's handwriting, proclaiming it to be "UNIX Original from Bell Labs v4 (see manual for fmt)"
An old reel to reel magnetic tape. It has a label, in Jay Lepreau's handwriting, proclaiming it to be "UNIX Original from Bell Labs v4 (see manual for fmt)"
An old reel to reel magnetic tape. It has a label, in Jay Lepreau's handwriting, proclaiming it to be "UNIX Original from Bell Labs v4 (see manual for fmt)"
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Larvitz
@Larvitz@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

[root@radon ~]# ./pkgbasify.lua
Running this tool will irreversibly modify your system to use pkgbase.
...
Conversion finished.

I just did pkbasify two of my (production) systems.

Apart from one "fuckup" where I didn't remember, that one server was running with "kern.securelevel=2" and the script couldn't replace /lib/libc.so.7, it does work perfectly! (And I fixed that by simply booting single-user mode and re-running pkgbasify).

FreeBSD-kernel-generic: 14.3p5
FreeBSD-runtime: 14.3p5
FreeBSD-utilities: 14.3p5

[root@radon /home/chofstede]# pkg info -x FreeBSD-zfs
FreeBSD-zfs-14.3p5
FreeBSD-zfs-dev-14.3p5
FreeBSD-zfs-dev-lib32-14.3p5
FreeBSD-zfs-lib32-14.3p5
FreeBSD-zfs-man-14.3p5

Nice! I like that. A LOT! Let's see how many years it'll take until my brain stops typing "freebsd-update" on a regular basis freebsd_logo

#freebsd #pkgbase #pkgbasify #unix

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@h4ckernews@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

Unix v4 Tape Found

https://discuss.systems/@ricci/115504720054699983

#HackerNews #Unix #v4 #Tape #Found #UnixHistory #TapeArchive #VintageComputing #HackerNews

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Peter N. M. Hansteen
@pitrh@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

It's Monday, heading towards the dark winter in the Northern hemisphere, but you can look forward to BSD conferences in the new year. See

"What is BSD? Come to a conference to find out!"

It's where the Internet comes from! -- https://nxdomain.no/~peter/what_is_bsd_come_to_a_conference_to_find_out.html - https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/11/what-is-bsd-come-to-conference-to-find.html - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/peterhansteen_without-the-bsd-code-no-internet-the-bsd-activity-7393293662849241088-DZFB? -https://medium.com/@peter.hansteen/what-is-bsd-come-to-a-conference-to-find-out-06acd7d77fd8
#BSD #Unix #FreeBSD #OpenBSBD #NetBSD #DragonFlyBSD #Freesoftware #Libresoftware #BSDlicense #permissivelicensing

What is BSD? Come to a conference to find out!

© 2025 Peter N. M. Hansteen What is BSD? It's where the Internet comes from! Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) is a family of com...

What is BSD? Come to a conference to find out!

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HP van Braam
@hp@mastodon.tmm.cx  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

Wow, after installing #solaris 2.5.1 on my #sun ultra 10, I can really see why people loved these old #Unix workstations.

It's so easy to develop some software on this!

#retrocomputing #visualbasic

A picture of two Ultra 10 sun workstations stacked on top of each other. Next to it is a monitor that shows a CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of two Ultra 10 sun workstations stacked on top of each other. Next to it is a monitor that shows a CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of two Ultra 10 sun workstations stacked on top of each other. Next to it is a monitor that shows a CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of a Solaris CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
A picture of a Solaris CDE desktop with Visual Basic 3
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Larvitz
@Larvitz@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

[root@radon ~]# ./pkgbasify.lua
Running this tool will irreversibly modify your system to use pkgbase.
...
Conversion finished.

I just did pkbasify two of my (production) systems.

Apart from one "fuckup" where I didn't remember, that one server was running with "kern.securelevel=2" and the script couldn't replace /lib/libc.so.7, it does work perfectly! (And I fixed that by simply booting single-user mode and re-running pkgbasify).

FreeBSD-kernel-generic: 14.3p5
FreeBSD-runtime: 14.3p5
FreeBSD-utilities: 14.3p5

[root@radon /home/chofstede]# pkg info -x FreeBSD-zfs
FreeBSD-zfs-14.3p5
FreeBSD-zfs-dev-14.3p5
FreeBSD-zfs-dev-lib32-14.3p5
FreeBSD-zfs-lib32-14.3p5
FreeBSD-zfs-man-14.3p5

Nice! I like that. A LOT! Let's see how many years it'll take until my brain stops typing "freebsd-update" on a regular basis freebsd_logo

#freebsd #pkgbase #pkgbasify #unix

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Peter N. M. Hansteen
@pitrh@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

It's Monday, heading towards the dark winter in the Northern hemisphere, but you can look forward to BSD conferences in the new year. See

"What is BSD? Come to a conference to find out!"

It's where the Internet comes from! -- https://nxdomain.no/~peter/what_is_bsd_come_to_a_conference_to_find_out.html - https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/11/what-is-bsd-come-to-conference-to-find.html - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/peterhansteen_without-the-bsd-code-no-internet-the-bsd-activity-7393293662849241088-DZFB? -https://medium.com/@peter.hansteen/what-is-bsd-come-to-a-conference-to-find-out-06acd7d77fd8
#BSD #Unix #FreeBSD #OpenBSBD #NetBSD #DragonFlyBSD #Freesoftware #Libresoftware #BSDlicense #permissivelicensing

What is BSD? Come to a conference to find out!

© 2025 Peter N. M. Hansteen What is BSD? It's where the Internet comes from! Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) is a family of com...

What is BSD? Come to a conference to find out!

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HP van Braam
@hp@mastodon.tmm.cx  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Totally normal day, taking the #sun ultra 10 #unix workstation I just found at the #thriftstore to the hardware store. (Different kind of hardware)

#retrocomputing #solaris

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vermaden
@vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Latest 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗡𝗲𝘄𝘀 - 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱/𝟭𝟭/𝟭𝟬 (Valuable News - 2025/11/10) available.

https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2025/11/10/valuable-news-2025-11-10/

Past releases: https://vermaden.wordpress.com/news/

#verblog #vernews #news #bsd #freebsd #openbsd #netbsd #linux #unix #zfs #opnsense #ghostbsd #solaris #vermadenday

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HP van Braam
@hp@mastodon.tmm.cx  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Totally normal day, taking the #sun ultra 10 #unix workstation I just found at the #thriftstore to the hardware store. (Different kind of hardware)

#retrocomputing #solaris

A picture of a Sun Ultra 10 workstation in a Praxis (Dutch home Depot) shopping cart
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vermaden
@vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Latest 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗡𝗲𝘄𝘀 - 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱/𝟭𝟭/𝟭𝟬 (Valuable News - 2025/11/10) available.

https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2025/11/10/valuable-news-2025-11-10/

Past releases: https://vermaden.wordpress.com/news/

#verblog #vernews #news #bsd #freebsd #openbsd #netbsd #linux #unix #zfs #opnsense #ghostbsd #solaris #vermadenday

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@h4ckernews@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

Installing and using HP-UX 9

https://thejpster.org.uk/blog/blog-2025-11-08/

#HackerNews #HPUX #Unix #Installation #RetroComputing #TechBlog

JP's Website

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