Lori Emerson
@loriemerson@post.lurk.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

you wouldn't think that a book called "Cybernetics and Management" would be so revelatory but really, Stafford Beer already knew in 1959 where it was at with so-called artificial brains! "Allied with new forms of energy, cybernetics is emergent to a new vision of society. In all this, it is specifically learning from biological systems, and trying to emulate their key features. Thus the measure of the importance of cybernetics is the backwardness of society’s present outlook on control, not the imagined ability of the science to build a super-brain." #ai #cybernetics
Lori Emerson
@loriemerson@post.lurk.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

you wouldn't think that a book called "Cybernetics and Management" would be so revelatory but really, Stafford Beer already knew in 1959 where it was at with so-called artificial brains! "Allied with new forms of energy, cybernetics is emergent to a new vision of society. In all this, it is specifically learning from biological systems, and trying to emulate their key features. Thus the measure of the importance of cybernetics is the backwardness of society’s present outlook on control, not the imagined ability of the science to build a super-brain." #ai #cybernetics
Kathy Reid
@KathyReid@aus.social  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

Here's a lovely piece by my #ANU#Cybernetics colleague, @theEllamo which talks about my #TokenWars talk, and how it's related to concepts like #PeakToken and the value of human-generated #data as the internet becomes polluted by #AI-generated slop.

There's a video link here to the #TokenWars talk, if you haven't seen it already.

Thanks, Ella!

https://cybernetics.anu.edu.au/news/2025/06/19/token-wars/

Kathy Reid
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Emil Jacobs - Collectifission
@collectifission@greennuclear.online  ·  activity timestamp last month

Started a new starter pack on cybernetic communists with currently myself and @ida_zeitoekonomie

I can't add @cibcom as they restricted discoverability and cannot be added.

If you know more accounts or would like to be added, let me know!

https://fedidevs.com/s/NTk2/

#Cybernetics#CyberneticSocialism#CyberneticEconomics
Emil Jacobs - Collectifission
@collectifission@greennuclear.online  ·  activity timestamp last month

Started a new starter pack on cybernetic communists with currently myself and @ida_zeitoekonomie

I can't add @cibcom as they restricted discoverability and cannot be added.

If you know more accounts or would like to be added, let me know!

https://fedidevs.com/s/NTk2/

#Cybernetics#CyberneticSocialism#CyberneticEconomics
Katika Kühnreich
@Katika@chaos.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@tante
…and they are trying to bring back #nuclear with #AI …

While #nuclearenergy is not #fossil it not #green at all - but #colonial , #deadly & totally unfair because, like in AI, the #profits are being privatised, the costs are hitting the whole #society & the #planet

But from the point of view of someone believing in #cybernetics or one of its #TESCREAL grandchildren it is great - because in cybernetics EVERY problem will be solved in "the future" by "technology"
tante
@tante@tldr.nettime.org  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Google's emissions are up over 50%, Amazon builds huge data centers powered by 75% natural gas.

Remember all those posts telling us that "AIs climate impact isn't that bad" supported by some really funky math/perspective and/or numbers Sam Altman invented?

Here's the actual impact.

"AI" is a fossil fuel technology.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/24/technology/amazon-ai-data-centers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.SU8.2JRa.e3Ju6r_pL1Im

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/27/google-emissions-ai-electricity-demand-derail-efforts-green
Katika Kühnreich
@Katika@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago
@tante
…and they are trying to bring back #nuclear with #AI …

While #nuclearenergy is not #fossil it not #green at all - but #colonial , #deadly & totally unfair because, like in AI, the #profits are being privatised, the costs are hitting the whole #society & the #planet

But from the point of view of someone believing in #cybernetics or one of its #TESCREAL grandchildren it is great - because in cybernetics EVERY problem will be solved in "the future" by "technology"