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@benroyce last night I caught up on all the drama and I'm absolutely flabbergasted... and a little surprised there hasn't been more talk on here about the implications of the false promises of AT Proto's decentralization.
Link has been permanently banned even if he's on Blacksky... because Blacksky uses Bluesky's AppView https://bsky.app/profile/rvbdrm.com/post/3m2jxe5ly722x
Looking up "Link Blacksky" on Bluesky surfaces really interesting talking points
@benroyce last night I caught up on all the drama and I'm absolutely flabbergasted... and a little surprised there hasn't been more talk on here about the implications of the false promises of AT Proto's decentralization.
Link has been permanently banned even if he's on Blacksky... because Blacksky uses Bluesky's AppView https://bsky.app/profile/rvbdrm.com/post/3m2jxe5ly722x
Looking up "Link Blacksky" on Bluesky surfaces really interesting talking points
@luca@sironi.tk @_elena@mastodon.social @benroyce@mastodon.social They have bluesky's mod service added to their appview. They can remove this at any time, and substitute it with their own.,
how is 99% bluesky "also true" for 25% mastodon.social's share?
it's not "also true"
99 does equal 25
in fact, large parts of the fediverse suspend mastodon.social
read, understand:
I don't particularly like AT proto, aside the bridge, i'm not there, I find it extremely difficult to understand it, for no relevant reason to me.
On the contrary, ActivityPub can be understood in 5 minutes from anyone willing to.
What I mean is that, once someone prove to be able to fully self-host AT, it's up to people to do so.
It became open to decentralization.
Your account is on the flagship mastodon instance, that 25% is also concerning, ok, less concerning but still concerning.
I guess also mastodon.social had 100% of share at the beginning
Last year they got 100%, I don't think they have still 99%, but let's see in one year from now.
i don't care about promise, i care about reality
i also judge harshly endless promise and no delivery. people have been hyping bluesky as decentralized for years. but it isn't. so it's people swallowing hype and ignoring facts
"someday"
i don't care
today, mastodon is decentralized, blueksy isn't, and all bluesky does is promise and doesn't deliver
that means something. something i will judge
@_elena@mastodon.social @luca@sironi.tk @benroyce@mastodon.social Blacksky has their own relay: https://atproto.africa
@benroyce @luca brilliant analogy Ben.
And besides visibility, I think Link - and other people who got banned - may have also lost the ability to log onto their accounts. Post history, social graph, followers, poof! All gone up in smoke (as far as I can tell, correct me if I'm wrong).
On the Fediverse, my self-hosted GoToSocial instance ensures I have full control. Sure, I can be blocked by scores of other instances, but I still have control over my data. The true power of decentralization
"surprised there hasn't been more talk on here about the implications of the false promises of AT Proto's #decentralization"
there's feverish true believers who think #bitcoin is the future of money
never going to happen: massive energy use
that doesn't stop the true believer
it's a cult
same with " #bluesky is #decentralized"
and my example of bitcoin is purposeful:
bluesky is run by #cryptoBros, and funded by #crypto bros
they imported the crypto con job to #socialMedia
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