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#AI illiteracy is real. While still arguing with a bunch of AI haters, #Copilot and I just finished our #Pascal #BLAS level 1-3 Implementation plus eigenvalue, cholesky, and sparse #matrix, so we will never need #python, #C, C#, #Rust, ... for our Small Language Project. We will expand our Pascal Numeric Library (PNL) v1.0 to something like #Numpy and #Pytorch, but with static arrays, deterministic data structure, no referencing, no pointer arithmetic.
@ahau hello, no hating here, happy user of AI for sysadmin assistance, but just out of curiosity, when Word does the spell check, the formatting and page numbering you say “Word and I just finished a document”? If not, sooner or later someone will start a campaign for the right of non-discrimination of poor clippy against AI supremacism 😅While I subscribe the concern over AI illiteracy I think that literates should make an effort to facilitate the understanding of reality beyond hype.
@ahau @gubi But what does "AI literacy" mean? What kind of skills or knowledge do you have to acquire?
I'm not doing much with AI, but I vibe-coded two small projects and to me, it doesn't look like it would need an additional skill set (apart from being able to properly express what you want in natural language - something some devs are admittedely not good at).
So I don't see much reason for FOMO
@goedelchen @ahau IMHO "AI Literacy" is the basic set of skills and knowledge needed to avoid undue interference on your cognitive sphere and knowledge building fostered by commercial hype and marketing of companies trying to recruit new customers to pay monthly fees for services of automated content generation that are overvalued, overpriced and doomed to enshittification, with risks ranging from ignorance to death that are unlikely for the individual but a statistics certainty for the masses.
@gubi @goedelchen The real problem is, you don't have the basic knowledge of anything. Laughing will not help you and you will be replaced not by AI, but people who know how to use AI. LOL
@ahau @goedelchen "you will die if you don't do what I do" did not always work with lay people to improve the understanding and the acceptance of vaccines.
In a similar way, "you will be replaced by people like me if you don't do what I do LOL" may work even less to improve the understanding and the acceptance of content generators, if we insist to humanize them in our talking.
My concern is over effective communication to explain effective technologies and effective science.
@gubi @goedelchen An AI is only as smart as the user. Your copilot is at least 100 times dumber than mine. LOL I am not a tech guy. I use AI only for knowledge. I love nature. I have 2 acres of l and I have birds and wild animals everywhere around me. I planted over 100 trees in my property. You are targeting a wrong person. The world will not end. Human will.
@ahau @goedelchen a software is not human, a software can't be smart. If you hit a hammer in your head the hammer is not dumb, if you give inputs to extract text from a vector database the software is not smart. I am not targeting you, I am only cautious of people humanizing things because those human things are not real, sometimes people talk to AI like they talk to the dogs, and the "reasoning" of the dog which is our reasoning reflected on the dog is not more real than the "reasoning" of AI.
@gubi @goedelchen You don't see it, do you? In 5 to 10 years, everyone can afford to have their PERSONAL AI. Very soon, personal AI will be trainable by the owner to do many many different tasks. Don't blame anyone if you either don't know how to use one or don't know how to train one. By that time your AI will be 1000 times dumber than mine. LOL
@ahau "personal AI" cannot be hosted on affordable personal hardware, and will be a service sold by private companies for profit to recover billions of investments, or a commodity promoted and for citizens on public infrastructures for the common good. To promote the optoions that is more convenient for the general public I don't think that a patronizing communication like "You don't see it, do you?" can help people to understand the process deeply enought to contain evil corps.
@gubi
You know nothing about the technology and only know about ChatGPT.
In 5 years everyone who can afford to pay $5000 for an I9 RTX 5080 can host a 50B fully modularized English, math, science, other knowledge model.
You don't need a 500B model. Bigger doesn't mean better. You only need a more efficient model and data with better quality. In 10 years, every kid will have a personal AI in their $1000 laptop.
My first 80286 cost me $1200 only had a 30M harddisk and could only run DOS.
@ahau you claim to be so smart and you can’t even grasp the performance gap between full precision and quantized models. You don’t see the shortage of memory and the skyrocketing of prices that is in front of you. You don’t get that 5k is worth six months of salary in many parts of the world. You delude yourself thinking that toys with 24GB vram will make you the king of the world with crappy 14B models, while people getting a MAC studio M3 will get 10x the memory for 2x the price.
@gubi Claim? I used to watch 8 hours of TV from primary to secondary school. I never finished reading a single book before going to college. I had a first class honors degree in accounting and finance. I got my PhD in economics from Johns Hopkins. I was a certified Java 2 programmer in 2001. I retired at the age of 50. I had a 3.9 GPA in a pre-vet program in 2012. I have 2 acres of land, a mini van, a 1900 sq ft house with zero debt. I don't need to work with humans. Now, show me what you have.
@goedelchen @gubi Be able to control an AI's output. You can ask an AI to create a 100 word Japanese story about a cat and a dog talking in a zoo with a word limit of 100, some appropriate hiragana, and a good English translation for a JNPT 5 learner. This is the simplest case of "prompting". I can create a set of guidance/core design of a large program for Copilot to follow to generate codes. I only need to carry out the tests. I can ask Copilot for the right data to proof a NEW theory.
@gubi In the 70s when calculators first came out, people said calculators would make kids stupid. In the 80s when computer came out, some people were still using typewriters. In about 2010, smart phones replaced computers making most people computer illiterate. Unfortunately, proper use of AI requires some basic computer knowledge plus general knowledge in everything. Most people are too specialized and are computer illiterate. They are incapable of understanding this technology. Good luck.
@ahau I agree on all you said, I am just pointing out the need to use the clearest and unambiguous possible wording, avoiding misleading analogies and metaphors that serve private interests for marketing and not the public interest for knowledge. We already did it in the past when primitive hardware was sold by advertisers as “electronic brains” for five dollars, and after dismissing this stealing of vocabulary from medical sciences we should do the same with cognitive social sciences.
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