@stshank there's a mated pair that live on the border between my neighborhood, a golf course, a bunch of avocado and orange groves, and some wilderness areas. Have been watching them since I first found them during pandemic, have watched their own chicks grow up and go solo, and have a few photos ... but never more than I can get with a phone camera from 50 feet, at best =\ I sure do love hearing them most evenings after sunset though.