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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

Amazing. W (I kid you not): A bunch of VC-funded European Big Tech assholes attempting to rewrite history by erasing the federated European alternatives that already exist to create their own centralised, surveillance-ridden X clone.

Same shit, different flag.

And I’m sure the usual fools will flock to it the moment it’s ready.

Fuck these people.

#EU #bullshit #W #BigTech #surveillance #capitalism #peopleFarming @nicolasvivant https://colter.social/@nicolasvivant/115929963687586528

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Sar
Sar
@sar@social.elderlogs.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant

lol yeah no thanks

The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports.
The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports.
The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports.
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Justin Fitzsimmons
Justin Fitzsimmons
@smn@l3ib.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant this is even more cringe than "macro hard"

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gravitas
@gravitas@pl.ugh.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant It will require ID verification, LOL… LMAO even

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@gravitas @nicolasvivant Surely you mean LMWAO ;)

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hamish campbell
hamish campbell
@hamishcampbell@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant

More #techshit to compost.

https://hamishcampbell.com/tag/techshit/

https://hamishcampbell.com/tag/techshit/
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Bob Mottram ✅
Bob Mottram ✅
@bob@epicyon.libreserver.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@aral Totally predictable.

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Mx. Eddie R
Mx. Eddie R
@silvermoon82@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@bob @aral
But what if we build *our own* homegrown torment nexus?

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@silvermoon82 @bob

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Mx. Eddie R
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@silvermoon82@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@aral @bob
Tested very high on the exploitability scale!

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SigueFedi ⁂
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@fedi@mast.lat replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant here is a picture of W Social's CEO on LinkedIn. "Make Europe Great Again"

Woman poses with cap where it is written Make Europe Great Again
Woman poses with cap where it is written Make Europe Great Again
Woman poses with cap where it is written Make Europe Great Again
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Dizzy
@BubblegumYeti@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@fedi @aral @nicolasvivant cringe

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@pedrobizbikedu@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fedi @aral @nicolasvivant Cringe-worthy. At this juncture, cosplaying fascists isn’t edgy or ironic, it’s just stupid and counterproductive.

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Half-Illithid Og
Half-Illithid Og
@jussi_og@mementomori.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fedi @aral @nicolasvivant truly pitiful

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Half-Illithid Og
Half-Illithid Og
@jussi_og@mementomori.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fedi @anulahtinen @aral @nicolasvivant truly pitiful

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stony kark
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@aapis@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fedi @aral @nicolasvivant ☹️

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craignicol
craignicol
@craignicol@glasgow.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fedi @aral @nicolasvivant ok. W definitely stands for wankers then

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@FediThing@social.chinwag.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fedi @aral @nicolasvivant

They're fascists then? Surely that's what the hat means?

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David T.
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@davidt@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@FediThing @fedi @aral @nicolasvivant I don't understand - why are we hating a European tech startup here? Have I missed something? Surely we want more EU startups?

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@davidt @FediThing @fedi @nicolasvivant Yeah, I think you missed the exit to Bluesky and ended up at Mastodon.

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fedi @nicolasvivant *smdh*

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Fabio Manganiello
Fabio Manganiello
@fabio@manganiello.eu replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant it’s surreal how these folks would throw any new corporate crap at us while ignoring the literal elephant in the room - that ActivityPub has already proved its point and they just need to run their instances.

–EDIT–

Oh, a closer look points to something interesting:

Anonymous accounts and automated bots are not allowed, according to the project’s backers

So how do you prevent anonymous accounts and bots?

Simple, with online identity verification!

That’s why they ignore ActivityPub 🙂

They’re trying to sell us the solution for an existential problem that they have created themselves around an emergency that doesn’t exist.

At this point any Trojan horse that can get EU citizens to swallow online identity verification can work. And if they can edulcolorate with a “but it’s a European sovereign social network!” (even if the ID verification mechanisms still rely on Google’s and Apple’s operating systems) then why not give it a try? 😄

Lawyer Monthly

W launches as a verified alternative to X in Europe

W launches in Europe as a verified alternative to X, operating under EU data protection and digital platform laws.
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Aslak Raanes
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@aslakr@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@fabio @nicolasvivant @aral And it seems like they are going to rely on AI for moderation/filtering and will not ban accounts. I guess fascist would be ok.

The clip where the CEO say they won't ban people https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxOqOEys_yr23eTXrV4CiYJf5S4Nmim1Zf?si=KTernWSN8HRmP7Dv

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@aslakr @fabio @nicolasvivant Must say, I’m nuttall convinced about all this.

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@fenixmaster@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant Do not use wsocial.

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Mastodon Migration
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@mastodonmigration@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant

They definitely were talking notes from #Bluesky Jay Graber's disingenuous 'decentralized' charm offensive.

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DoktorZjivago
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@doktorzjivago@mastodonsweden.se replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@mastodonmigration @aral @nicolasvivant I checked it and the company is actually registered in Sweden. It’s amazing that they think they can attract regular people with a “top-bottom”-approach by first courting tech companies and LinkedIn peeps . At least bluesky started with the furries and lgbtqia+ people

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DoktorZjivago
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@doktorzjivago@mastodonsweden.se replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@mastodonmigration @aral @nicolasvivant The stock is worth €2500 approximately, which is the absolute lowest amount you need to go in with in order to get the approval to start a private company in Sweden lol

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@doktorzjivago @mastodonmigration @nicolasvivant Still overpriced.

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@lowlevel@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant
they're keen not to mention any fediverse competitor, the only real alternative.

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Michael Roberts
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@vivtek@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant "Finally, it's *our* turn to be centralizing oligarchs!"

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aria
@ariarhythmic@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant these guys spin the faults of US big tech into some sort of nationalist, "patriotic" tale about how europe is inherently superior. it's annoying because it's never been a matter of that.

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Benjamin Balder Bach
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@benjaoming@social.data.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant I love how they don't know how to configure a webserver (i.e. setup www.wsocial.eu to redirect properly)

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@GutterPoetry@mastodon.me.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant

Agreed, and yet... Better dubya than musk/trump

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@GutterPoetry @nicolasvivant Not our only two options (thank fuck).

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Antti Peltola
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@anttipeltola@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@aral

Another Bluesky rug pull in the making.

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Reinaldo Coelho (Foca)
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@reinaldocoelho@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant South America has Mastodon instances too. Where is it?

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@Teratogenese@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 11 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant
If it is not built for greed, I dont see it 🤡

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Tanguy ⧓ Herrmann
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@dolanor@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant who are those big tech? I tried to find, but it's not very visible.

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@dolanor @nicolasvivant More info here: https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

Cybernews

Bye, X: Europeans are launching their own social media platform, W

European organizations may soon launch their own social media platform, W, requiring user identification and photo verification to prevent bots.
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Goth Jessica
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@normjess@tech.lgbt replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@aral
when will non-techies learn the answer to Big Tech is not MORE Big Tech

its like reaching for another pair of soiled underpants

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@flesh@transfem.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@normjess@tech.lgbt @aral@mastodon.ar.al For some people, the problem with hypercapitalist American Surveillance State Big Tech is the American part.

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@flesh @normjess Yep.

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DCoder 🇱🇹❤🇺🇦
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@dcoderlt@ohai.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@normjess @aral
“The only thing that can stop a bad billionaire with a social media site is a good billionaire with a social media site”

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@dcoderlt @normjess 👌🤣 … also 🤦‍♂️ … also 🤬

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eruwero
@eruwero@ieji.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@normjess @aral but it's soiled with my own shit this time!

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@eruwero @normjess Mmm, nothing like the smell of European shit in the morning 💩🇪🇺

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craignicol
craignicol
@craignicol@glasgow.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@aral @fkamiah17 @nicolasvivant if it's not on a stock market, it doesn't exist?

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@craignicol @fkamiah17 @nicolasvivant That’s capitalism for you.

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@martenbjorklund@mastodon.nu replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant Truly regarded 🤣

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@bargo@mastodon.tn replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant eh, in reality, most of the federated platforms came in responses pr alternatives to closed ones, for example, you can compare when was Mastodon born & when was Twitter
but yeah, they are becoming worse & worse each day, I am using fb since 2008 and if you compare what I remember with the current state, you'll seriously question why all Tunisians are there, well, most of them anyway

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@ivan replied  ·  activity timestamp 13 hours ago

@aral@mastodon.ar.al @nicolasvivant@colter.social ​i thought it was a meme 🫠

btw also bluesky is lobbying quite hard in EU afaik

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Toon
@toon@toon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@aral @nicolasvivant The real WE: https://www.w-social.eu/

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Björn Gohla
Björn Gohla
@6d03@mathstodon.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@toon @aral @nicolasvivant

Maybe this is also a good time to consider supporting your mastodon instance.

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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@6d03 @toon @nicolasvivant I support mine 100% ;)

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Toon
@toon@toon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@aral @6d03 @nicolasvivant same here... 100% self suported!

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Björn Gohla
Björn Gohla
@6d03@mathstodon.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

@aral @toon @nicolasvivant

😄

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@lashman@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 14 hours ago

@aral W? more like L

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