One thing that the current exorbitant investments in "AI" show is that the investor class and big tech corporations do not pay enough taxes: If you have billions to set on fire for spicy autocomplete we should take some or all of those to do something useful with.

@tante

Adding hashtags - where's quote toot? I thought that was coming?

#EatTheRich#TaxTheRich #capitalism#AI

"One thing that the current exorbitant investments in "AI" show is that the investor class and big tech corporations do not pay enough taxes: If you have billions to set on fire for spicy autocomplete we should take some or all of those to do something useful with."

Late Capitalists: Oh no, we're not making enough money. To create more wealth, we're going to cut our workers wages and get them to more stuff, and charge customers more for it.

But oh no, they're mostly the same people, and with less wages to spend, they're buying less stuff. So we better raise prices more, and cut wages again.

(1/?)

(Personal observation, not a "way things should be" thought):

Surprised to learn of myself that of all the reasons AI crawling of the web should be concerning, "It stops redirecting traffic to the host sites" isn't one of them. To me, anyway.

The "old web" that I hear people sometimes pine for was a place that people were putting stuff online with no expectation of financial remuneration. People put stuff online so it was online. The idea that it could end up re-indexed somewhere else was... Yes please we'd like that info easier to find actually?

There are other issues with AI answers (personally: I want the back-link to the source because I shouldn't trust random ideas spewed at me by an AI agent any more than I trust random ideas from an anonymous Redditor, and pedigree and source citation helps there). To the extent that they divorce site maintainers from their ad revenue... That's not an AI problem, that's a "There are no stable models for capturing revenue off of infinitely-copyable information in capitalism" problem. There's not as much moral daylight between AI scrapers bypassing robots.txt and IP blockers and lying about their user-agent... and Aaron Swartz smuggling a server into a secure network to scrape a paid academic archive... as I think some people want to believe.

#ai #copyright #capitalism

alcinnz
alcinnz boosted

The #Internet is Dying: #AI, Bots, and The End of #Human Content - by Vanessa Wingårdh

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J5ZmLvy_Jfg
(or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ZmLvy_Jfg)

This should be common knowledge by now, but there is still a small chance that it's not, so let's make sure it definitely will be.

#Capitalism#Advertisment#Ads#Society#GenAI#GenerativeAI#Philosophy

The #Internet is Dying: #AI, Bots, and The End of #Human Content - by Vanessa Wingårdh

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J5ZmLvy_Jfg
(or YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ZmLvy_Jfg)

This should be common knowledge by now, but there is still a small chance that it's not, so let's make sure it definitely will be.

#Capitalism#Advertisment#Ads#Society#GenAI#GenerativeAI#Philosophy

"Apart from their endorsement of Karl Marx’s fettering thesis near the end of the book, Abundance is clearly not a socialist text. It is a manifesto for a broad tent of liberals and centrists, aimed in part at what the authors call “the pathologies of the modern left.” We share concern about these pathologies, but argue the solution is not a retreat from the Left — it is, if anything, a more full-throated socialist politics. Here we can reassert some of those fundamental socialist arguments.

First, socialists understand that the main barrier to abundance is not bottlenecks or the Groups, but capitalism. “Supply-side liberalism” can sometimes rely on a naive neoclassical assumption: supply goes up, price goes down, and voilà — abundance! But this theory ignores the fact that there are very powerful class forces with a vested interest in maintaining artificial scarcity of key goods to maintain their profits. Landlords and real estate developers, for example, do not have an interest in an “abundance” of housing because it would collapse the price of the commodity they wish to sell for a profit. The history of energy is likewise a history of cartels — from the Seven Sisters to OPEC — whose prime goal is withholding supply to maintain prices, rents, and profits for owners. And this only mentions class interests in the sectors covered by Klein and Thompson, to say nothing of the larger political economy that, as Joe Weisenthal notes, “has too much riding on a perpetual rise in the value of financial assets.”"

https://jacobin.com/2025/08/klein-thompson-abundance-liberalism-socialism/

#Abundance#Socialism#Bureaucracy#Capitalism#Inequality

"Apart from their endorsement of Karl Marx’s fettering thesis near the end of the book, Abundance is clearly not a socialist text. It is a manifesto for a broad tent of liberals and centrists, aimed in part at what the authors call “the pathologies of the modern left.” We share concern about these pathologies, but argue the solution is not a retreat from the Left — it is, if anything, a more full-throated socialist politics. Here we can reassert some of those fundamental socialist arguments.

First, socialists understand that the main barrier to abundance is not bottlenecks or the Groups, but capitalism. “Supply-side liberalism” can sometimes rely on a naive neoclassical assumption: supply goes up, price goes down, and voilà — abundance! But this theory ignores the fact that there are very powerful class forces with a vested interest in maintaining artificial scarcity of key goods to maintain their profits. Landlords and real estate developers, for example, do not have an interest in an “abundance” of housing because it would collapse the price of the commodity they wish to sell for a profit. The history of energy is likewise a history of cartels — from the Seven Sisters to OPEC — whose prime goal is withholding supply to maintain prices, rents, and profits for owners. And this only mentions class interests in the sectors covered by Klein and Thompson, to say nothing of the larger political economy that, as Joe Weisenthal notes, “has too much riding on a perpetual rise in the value of financial assets.”"

https://jacobin.com/2025/08/klein-thompson-abundance-liberalism-socialism/

#Abundance#Socialism#Bureaucracy#Capitalism#Inequality

On my list: #book by #LukeKemp:
#History is best told as a story of organised crime,” ... “It is one group creating a monopoly on resources through the use of violence over a certain territory & population. [...]The key thing is this is not about all of #humanity creating these threats. It is not about human nature. It is about small groups who bring out the worst in us, competing for profit and power and covering all the risks up.”

#mustread #collapse #capitalism

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/aug/02/self-termination-history-and-future-of-societal-collapse

On my list: #book by #LukeKemp:
#History is best told as a story of organised crime,” ... “It is one group creating a monopoly on resources through the use of violence over a certain territory & population. [...]The key thing is this is not about all of #humanity creating these threats. It is not about human nature. It is about small groups who bring out the worst in us, competing for profit and power and covering all the risks up.”

#mustread #collapse #capitalism

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/aug/02/self-termination-history-and-future-of-societal-collapse

@eloquence@social.coop

While I welcome your experiments like any other attempt to challenge the power structures of #capitalism.

However this specific attempt looks pretty naive and deeply misguided.

#AI is just opaque, statistically programmed, software.

As such, it embodies and reproduce the will of those who created it, selecting the source data (instead of writing the source code). They are always special-purpose software sold as general purpose.

In particular, #LLM are lossy compressions of source data selected for the sole purpose to fool people's minds and alienate them.

In general, wielding weapon of oppression against oppressor is a wild illusion that streghten their power as even the oppressed start relying on the infrastructure of their own oppression.

And unless you compile your own source dataset from scratch, without using pretrained models from third parties, you are going to serve the very same interests and power structures you are hoping to fight.

Meta did this? Mastodon gGmbH’s partner Meta at the Social Web Foundation?

But aren’t Mastodon gGmbH the good guys? I can’t see how they’d ever partner with Meta if this were true.

No, no, this must be fake news.

(Otherwise, what would it say about Mastodon gGmbH and the Social Web Foundation?)

socialwebfoundation.org/

mamot.fr/@Khrys/11493524133827

Meta did this? Mastodon gGmbH’s partner Meta at the Social Web Foundation?

But aren’t Mastodon gGmbH the good guys? I can’t see how they’d ever partner with Meta if this were true.

No, no, this must be fake news.

(Otherwise, what would it say about Mastodon gGmbH and the Social Web Foundation?)

socialwebfoundation.org/

mamot.fr/@Khrys/11493524133827

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I have done things for money I am not proud of...

#work #capitalism #taboo

Someone looks in the camera and says: I have done things for money I'm not proud of, like *pauze* wake up early and work.
Someone looks in the camera and says: I have done things for money I'm not proud of, like *pauze* wake up early and work.

I have done things for money I am not proud of...

#work #capitalism #taboo

Someone looks in the camera and says: I have done things for money I'm not proud of, like *pauze* wake up early and work.
Someone looks in the camera and says: I have done things for money I'm not proud of, like *pauze* wake up early and work.