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tools for commensality 🧿

@inquiline@assemblag.es · 3 days ago

tools for commensality 🧿

@inquiline@assemblag.es · 4 months ago

Who on here edits #Wikipedia and wants to make a page for #Blacksky ?

Wikipedia as we know has a well-known racial bias, & based on a conversation here I was thinking it might help some of the #protocol convo's if info about Blacksky were available there
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_bias_on_Wikipedia

EDIT: there's a DRAFT up now, can anyone post it? Needs one more line about how Blacksky is a Black-led community for Black sociality online, or something. Cite: https://nonprofitquarterly.org/building-blacksky/

Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Blacksky

#Fediverse users worked together to make sure #Blacksky has a #Wikipedia page, arising from the need to educate users here about the project, starting in about September last year (https://assemblag.es/@inquiline/115166596826618536 )

I was sort of trying to cheerlead but you-all are who actually built the page! 🙏 ❤️

thanks to @Anne_Delong https://musician.social/@Anne_Delong/115321834133067505 among others.

It's ironic that this page went live right as people are breaking their bridged connections to Bluesky because of ICE getting verified there +

tools for commensality 🧿

@inquiline@assemblag.es replied · 3 days ago

I was sort of trying to cheerlead but you-all are who actually built the page! 🙏 ❤️

thanks to @Anne_Delong https://musician.social/@Anne_Delong/115321834133067505 among others.

It's ironic that this page went live right as people are breaking their bridged connections to Bluesky because of ICE getting verified there +

tools for commensality 🧿

@inquiline@assemblag.es replied · 3 days ago

Technical details are largely above my paygrade, but it's interesting that also today, Blacksky is running an appview of its own, per @mcc (linking out to Blacksky's Rudy Frasier)
https://mastodon.social/@mcc/115917963359245981

Maybe there will be a way to stay bridged to Blacksky while remaining (ahem) defederated from Bluesky, from instances over here?

(mcc's 🧵 gives some back story here, and it [the thread not the story] begins in... September of last year)

#Blacksky #Fediverse #ATproto #federation #Bluesky

tools for commensality 🧿

@inquiline@assemblag.es replied · 2 days ago

update: i posted the page yesterday on Bluesky (tho my account is hosted by Blacksky) and as of today, some folks there are contributing edits to the page too.

So I guess this wound up being an ActivityPub-ATProto collaboration through the Wikipedia protocol?? 😃

(don't @ me, i'm a social scientist, not a computer toucher 😂 )

Szescstopni

@Szescstopni@circumstances.run replied · 2 days ago

@inquiline The human connectivity protocol using any possible transport medium?

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@inquiline@assemblag.es replied · 2 days ago

@Szescstopni

by this definition i think we'd both agree #asstodon is a protocol--and we'd be right

Szescstopni

@Szescstopni@circumstances.run replied · 2 days ago

@inquiline Transport layer. Very cute and hard-working.

mcc

@mcc@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@inquiline Things Fediverse users/operators can do include:

- You could bridgyfed with blacksky PDS but not with the bluesky PDSes;

- You could choose to allow bridging based on who the blacksky moderation service allows, not bluesky;

Things you can't do:

- Know someone's PDS from looking at their address— you gotta query a database to know

- Know what Appview a user is using. Nothing tracks that information and AFAIK no one can.

My PDS is neither blacksky or bluesky, I self host.

mcc

@mcc@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@inquiline A "PDS" is where your posts are stored. But other users don't read your posts off the PDS— "reading" a PDS means looking at a lot of raw JSON.

An "appview" is kind of like a super-client. It serves the web pages when you want to read other people's posts, but it also handles search and some other stuff a Mastodon instance would handle.

tools for commensality 🧿

@inquiline@assemblag.es replied · 3 days ago

@mcc

Awesome, thank you!! (I wasn't trying to tag you to make you answer questions, but to be courteous about letting you know I was sharing your post--nonetheless I, and surely many others reading, will super appreciate this info!!!)

edit, I just bookmarked your post bc I know a lot of people will find it helpful/I will want to be sharing it often

CathyBikesBook

@CathyBikesBook@mastodon.social replied · 3 days ago

@inquiline interesting. Might need to explore this. Hmm

tools for commensality 🧿

@inquiline@assemblag.es replied · 3 days ago

@CathyBikesBook

it is pretty interesting!! since you're new here, welcome; and also if you're interested in learning more about this stuff, @mekkaokereke @laurenshof @thenexusofprivacy are often offering commentary if you're interested and not already following them

The Nexus of Privacy

@thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange replied · 3 days ago

Welcome @CathyBikesBook ! Blacksky is very interesting indeed. Here's an article I did on it last fall https://privacy.thenexus.today/what-solidarity-looks-like/

And, hanks for the tag @inquiline .

@mekkaokereke @laurenshof

The Nexus Of Privacy

This is what solidarity looks like

Part 2 of "Decentralization" and Erasure: Blacksky, Bluesky, and the ATmosphere

Jess Fairbairn

@JessFairbairn@aoir.social replied · 3 days ago

@thenexusofprivacy this is really cool, I didn't know the Blacksky community had got a relay running which (if I understand correctly) is the most challenging part/ the bit people said would stop decentralisation?

The Nexus of Privacy

@thenexusofprivacy@infosec.exchange replied · 3 days ago

@JessFairbairn glad you like it! Blacksky's relay has indeed been running for quite a while ... but it turns out that this wasn't actually the most challenging part. They've just started public testing of their appview (at https://staging.blacksky.community/ ) which has taken them a lot longer to do. I haven't tracked development closely, but one challenge is the size of the data -- Rudy says a while ago that they need 14TB of disk!