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RE: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/115911622720100646

Agreed 100%. ICE is not the problem. The problem is the latent #fascism that was always lurking behind the facade of democracy.

#Democracy in the US has always been a fucking lie, an illusion put in front of the brutal #capitalist machine built on #genocide, #landtheft, #colonialism and subjugation. The white middle class insistence that democracy was real is an expression of privilege and #whitesupremacy.

250 years of #shame, that is the #US. I encourage you to read Zinn's People's History.

Beardy Star Stuff 🏴🌹🇵🇸

@dennyhenke@social.coop replied · 2 days ago

Something that is not really acknowledged in the #US is that the white middle class has long been a beneficiary of #WhiteSupremacy which also means it serves as a protector of that system. The #Democrats, especially the establishment of that party, know this perfectly well. They are protectors of #neoliberalism and #capitalism and, ultimately #fascism. They will continue to be useless in this fight.

The deep fight, the real #resistance will have to tap into the real #struggle of #ClassWar.

okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin

@Okanogen@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

@dennyhenke
Class war is not the same as White Supremacy, and the Democratic party is primarily Black & Brown. It is the height of #WhitePrivilege for White Leftists/DSA to reject solidarity with the vast majority of Black/Brown people, demand they abandon their own values and goals and instead adopt class war goals which mostly benefit the White working class.
How about this? Join together with us, the only realistic alternarive to GOP fascism, and demand more change while inside the tent?

Beardy Star Stuff 🏴🌹🇵🇸

@dennyhenke@social.coop replied · 2 days ago

@Okanogen

Strong disagree that the Democratic Party is primarily black and brown. That's a gross simplification of the reality of that Party.

Don't conflate leftists rejection of the Democratic Party with a rejection of solidarity with black/brown people. That is a big bunch of bullshit. Same for your ridiculous claim that anyone is requiring anyone to abandon values or goals.

Your assertion that the only way to work together is under the Democratic Party is also bullshit.

Done with that.

Beardy Star Stuff 🏴🌹🇵🇸

@dennyhenke@social.coop replied · 2 days ago

@Okanogen

I see. The only way we can work together is if I accept YOUR ultimatum? That the ONLY way we can work together is to work within the Democratic Party?

And because I reject working within the Democratic Party I'm the problem? Go ahead, do your thing.

Remember, you're the one issuing dictates that the only way for us to work together is that I join you in what you deem the only realistic option.

Good luck with your party.

okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin

@Okanogen@mastodon.social replied · 2 days ago

@dennyhenke
People who act like you are the reason people who look like me are being pulled from cars in my neighborhood by ICE. Your failure to be in solidarity, your privileged purity.
You have zero skin in the game. No matter what happens, you will be ok.
I'm done tolerating that bullshit without calling it out.

Beardy Star Stuff 🏴🌹🇵🇸

@dennyhenke@social.coop replied · 2 days ago

We're not supposed to talk about that. That is meant to be left alone because that is a challenge to the ORDER OF THINGS. That is the challenge to the actual, systemic problem that has been lurking, not for 250 years, but for 500+ years since Europeans brought #settlercolonialism to these continents and began their #genocide.

What's the expiration date for justice in regards to the original sin of genocide and land theft that took place here? The sin of slavery?

Beardy Star Stuff 🏴🌹🇵🇸

@dennyhenke@social.coop replied · 2 days ago

To this day we white Americans, have never reckoned with these fundamental truths of US history. And the #fascism we see unfolding now is the chickens coming home to roost.

#ICE is the brutal, violent TRUTH of 500 years of American #Colonialism.

If you don't see it then you're not looking hard enough and you are still deep in your practice of #whitesupremacy.

We don't get to pretend these truths away because they are inconvenient or uncomfortable. Our lives are built on them.

Beardy Star Stuff 🏴🌹🇵🇸

@dennyhenke@social.coop replied · 2 days ago

All the nice homes of suburban America, the plush carpets, the two car garages filled with cars, extra fridges, boxes of too much stuff, the green lawns and strip malls, this is the bribe of comfort, the "reward" and goal of a life of playing by the rules, working hard, etc that white middle class America has been told is the point of life here, the expression of "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

It is also the lie that we benefit from #capitalism or that it is natural.

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