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TechAltar
TechAltar
@Techaltar@mas.to  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

Now that it is official US policy to promote regime change in Europe and to dismantle the EU I wonder if we will take sovereignty over tech more seriously

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WowSuchCyber
WowSuchCyber
@WowSuchCyber@toot.zof.sh replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar I tried to have that conversation with multiple executives here in belgium and it's a big no.

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TechAltar
TechAltar
@Techaltar@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@WowSuchCyber I think you have to start seeing actual massive impacts, like companies in your own industry being severely hurt, before making a big change. A hypothetical future is not for change enough even if it feels like it should be

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WowSuchCyber
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@WowSuchCyber@toot.zof.sh replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar I mean a bank went bankrupt because they lost access to azure already and nobody even know about it https://www.gtreview.com/news/europe/solvent-but-bankrupt-how-sanctions-felled-amsterdam-trade-bank/

Global Trade Review (GTR)

Solvent but bankrupt: how sanctions felled Amsterdam Trade Bank

The writing was on the wall for the Amsterdam Trade Bank (ATB) when, after being sanctioned by the US in early April over its Russian ownership, Microsoft yanked the company’s and staff’s access to their email accounts. The decision by the US software giant and notice of a similar planned move by Amazon, which provided…
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TechAltar
TechAltar
@Techaltar@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@WowSuchCyber yeah I mentioned this in my video as well, but I think people can mentally separate themselves from this because it's related to Russia and so it feels different. Even if it should be making us nervous

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Wordmark
Wordmark
@wordmark@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar approach in #russia " #china you want to 5G spy on us? Ok but only with our #encryption"

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Pete the Gopher Keeper
Pete the Gopher Keeper
@GopherPete@techhub.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar @GossiTheDog The problem (IMO) with the EU is that there's not enough "Union" among members. I'm sure the original EU Commission set itself up to manage the member states so that agreements could be made, and dissent would be eliminated by rounds of debate y'know, like a democracy). This, however has been shown not to be the case and the wavering over sanctions and support for the war in Ukraine has shown the weakness in the system where member states' alleged vested interests and maybe secret alliances with the aggressor work against Union. So in the event of a "push" into Europe, there wouldn't be the strong bond to repel this, and really it's so obvious now that even the Orange Guy can see it, and he's watching the EU unintentionally dismantle itself. If you want further proof, ask about the European Army.

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TomSeppert 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱 🇪🇺
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@TomSeppert@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar

Some are starting to get it:

https://fosstodon.org/@TomSeppert/115696203639557342

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Brokar
Brokar
@Brokar@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar I wish they'd thought about it 10 years ago.

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Olivier Roux (moose)
Olivier Roux (moose)
@otolithe@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar @cstross we won’t.

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schrotthaufen
schrotthaufen
@schrotthaufen@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar @cstross European politicians might talk about sovereign cloud, but as long as they have the hots for Palantir, and EU startups get VC money from a16z & co, we’ll stay at the mercy of this adversarial regime.

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RootWyrm 🇺🇦:progress:
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@rootwyrm@weird.autos replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar that would require them to actually invest in things, change the way they do business, and stop deluding themselves into believing that Microsoft, AWS, et. al. won't eagerly roll over for a Nazi regime.

So, no.

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Muiris
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@Muiris@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@Techaltar Vast amounts of state information in my country is stored on Microsoft azure and Oracle databases. These US corporations who profit from very suspect practices, plus their software is also really shit. I really hope EU countries like mine migrate from these rubbish companies to superior European based ones ASAP.

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demofox
demofox
@demofox@mastodon.gamedev.place replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar as a citizen of the USA i hope you do! The monopolies are toppling the world.

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Alex ✅
Alex ✅
@Alex2ander@fosstodon.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar Unlikely as they incentivise things

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Marcus Holloway
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@GuineaPig@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar Of course no.
The majority of the EU politicians have been trained by the US in the "Young Leaders" program.
I'd be extremely surprised anyone of them has enough spine to resist to US pressure.

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Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle
Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle
@lffontenelle@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar would you mind if I post a screenshot of this message on my WhatsApp status?

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delolzer
delolzer
@delolzer@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar I'm sorry, but did you ask the trump administration to post this????

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Neo Ehproque
Neo Ehproque
@ehproque@neopaquita.es replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar no, Windows everywhere, and M365

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b3lt3r
b3lt3r
@b3lt3r@mastodon.b3lt3r.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar not with our current crop of "leaders", just roll over and offer the throat up...

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Robin Barton
Robin Barton
@Robo105@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar Probably too many people willing to assist usa

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David
David
@dbencom@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar Not only technology, I started making changes in my life 1 year ago. I don't buy any products made in the US or from US companies, except things that get out of my hands (Windows on the computer, Google Services and paying with a VISA or MasterCard). My browser is Vivaldi, my search engine is Qwant, my antivirus is Bitfender, my AI chat is Mistral, my email is Tutamail, my cloud is Internxt and much more! Let's do it together and show that Europe does not depend on the US heart_fire

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Gondor
Gondor
@grootinside@troet.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar
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Dave Mc
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@guigsy@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar the US could cripple Europe, just by having a go-slow on Amazon, Google and Microsoft clouds.

Plus, US law means even if those data centres are in Europe, if the US government demands the data, those US companies must hand it over. Our data isn't safe.

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Dimly Lit Corners
Dimly Lit Corners
@DLC@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar I sure hope so?

[ EU needs to grow a spine and retaliate with changing the copyright directive: Decriminalise cracking DRM & making, distributing, and using the cracking tools ]

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Thib
Thib
@thibaultamartin@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar Is this referring to a specific event or the general zeitgeist?

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mkj
mkj
@mkj@social.mkj.earth replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@thibaultamartin I'm pretty sure @Techaltar is referring to the recent kerfuffle about the US national security policy.

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Etua
Etua
@etua_en@ieji.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar You know the answer, don't you? Any effort will be crippled by inefficiency or 'muh, centralisation'.

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Tom Wor ✅
Tom Wor ✅
@tomwor@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar Habits are hard to change, but the news won't get any better in the near future. That and EU regulation combined could actually lead to lasting change. It's also a big business opportunity for European countries, often overlooked. I'm optimistic!

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Sebastian Raible
Sebastian Raible
@sraible@eupolicy.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar for @apell, I work on the EU Open Source Awards project, one of the efforts we work on to raise awareness for the strategic importance of Open Source for digital sovereignty. I’d like to invite you to the gala, could we get in touch?

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Filip Wiśniewski
Filip Wiśniewski
@iungomadre@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar certainly made me switch to proton right after 😂

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Wordmark
Wordmark
@wordmark@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar no #Europe will continue to buy #US #iphone made in #China X-D

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stefan
stefan
@stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago
@Techaltar We might need it for the wave of nazis that will feel even stronger now the US backs them blobcatsweat
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DiaboloVampire
DiaboloVampire
@diabolovampire@mastodontech.de replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar

My personal opinion, NO!

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Jens Rohde
Jens Rohde
@svabonius@mstdn.dk replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar if it raises prices, then I fear, that the answer is no.

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