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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Lettuce Wall Thread

Materials purchased!

I splurged on making it pretty with decorative shelf brackets. Just means it'll take a couple more crops to pay for itself.

Next up will be staining and assembling.

#solarPunk #hydroponics #indoorGardening #verticalFarming #vegetableGardening #postScarcity $foodSecurity

A picture of bare wood shelving. The side panels look like ladders and go up just past eight feet. The wood shelves themselves are stacked against the wall. The wood is untreated and unstained.
A picture of bare wood shelving. The side panels look like ladders and go up just past eight feet. The wood shelves themselves are stacked against the wall. The wood is untreated and unstained.
A picture of bare wood shelving. The side panels look like ladders and go up just past eight feet. The wood shelves themselves are stacked against the wall. The wood is untreated and unstained.
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@tinker@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Lettuce Wall Thread

Wood is stained and ready to assemble!

I've started to mount the T8 LED Grow Light strips. I'm putting two T8s on each shelf. I have left space to put a single T5 or T8 in the middle in the future if I need more light. But two T8s should be plenty.

(Note how long its been since my last update. It takes me a while to complete projects for a variety of reasons. I still work on them though even if they take a while. I complete as much as I'm able at any given time knowing that when I'm able to work on it in the future, I will. I have no set schedule and I am forgiving and easy on myself. It will get done. In its own time.)

#solarPunk #hydroponics #indoorGardening #verticalFarming #vegetableGardening #postScarcity #foodSecurity

The underside of a shelf with two T8 LED Grow Light strips attached via metal brackets screwed into the wood.
The underside of a shelf with two T8 LED Grow Light strips attached via metal brackets screwed into the wood.
The underside of a shelf with two T8 LED Grow Light strips attached via metal brackets screwed into the wood.
The stained food side rails and shelves are shown stacked against the wall. The side rails are stained a rich full red. The shelves are stained a reddish wooden cherry-wood color.
The stained food side rails and shelves are shown stacked against the wall. The side rails are stained a rich full red. The shelves are stained a reddish wooden cherry-wood color.
The stained food side rails and shelves are shown stacked against the wall. The side rails are stained a rich full red. The shelves are stained a reddish wooden cherry-wood color.
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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Well this is amazing!!!

We just got our first host that wants to put up a Free Fridge!!!!

I was going to put in a post of how we have multiple leads out and various irons in the fire, but dang, this one came quick! We've been talking to various folks for the past couple of months and there have been various interest, but nothing has been set in stone yet.

So, I posted a couple weeks ago how our Free Fridge and Food Rescue group got featured in the local town paper ( https://infosec.exchange/@tinker/114949623055200806 ) . Turns out various folks read it and were interested, both in the food rescue and in the free fridge aspect.

We have one free fridge in town hosted by a local community garden, but that is completely run by them. We help keep it clean and we help stock and utilize it, but my group was created to build other free fridges throughout town.

And sure enough, a local church read the article and came to our monthly meeting. They invited us to go to their church and tour it and see what they were doing.

They're a small church that is heavy in working with the Food Bank and doing distributions. They recently received a generous donation with the request that the money be used for community service. They're going to source the refrigerator, pantry, and even build out an area to provide cover and a walkway to it.

The location is great. It's accessible via public transit (such that we have here). It's decently walkable and the city is putting in improvements in the next year. They have a good parking lot and a location that is accessible to the public 24/7.

So I've put together a little project plan:

- Go onsite and create rough site plan: Designate location. Measure out area for concrete slab, awning, and potentially walkway
- Get estimates for outside electrical outlet installation, concrete slab / walkway construction, and awning construction
- Contact appropriate municipality / county to sort out any requirements or approvals
- Complete construction
- Source and install fridge and pantry
- Open to community & advertise new location

The head of their food missions has already sourced and purchased the refrigerator. So wow. Next step will be to go back onsite and do a rough site plan. Basically measure out the spot and sort out the concrete pad dimensions.

This is the first time I've done this... so I'll be learning along the way and documenting it for other sites (hopefully) in the future.

This is amazing. Our first fridge for our group and the second for my region!!!

#freeFridge#foodScarcity#foodSecurity#postScarcity#solarPunk#mutualAid

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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

There are a lot of resources on Free Fridges and Community Pantries.

The Freedge group has a wonderful site that has resources for finding fridges in your neighborhood or installing new ones:

- Freedge: https://freedge.org/
- Starting a Free Fridge in your Town: https://freedge.org/freedge-yourself/
- Map of current Free Fridges: https://freedge.org/locations/

Some folks have had questions or concerns as it relates to Free Fridges. I have posted my answer to a couple of them below:

Worry about folks "taking advantage" of free food
https://infosec.exchange/@tinker/113765243630873685

Worry about tainted food being placed in the fridge?
https://infosec.exchange/@tinker/113765319396269374

Do free fridge initiatives even work?
https://infosec.exchange/@tinker/113766774842784296

I'll add to this post in the future if I find other resources.

#freeFridge
#foodScarcity
#foodSecurity
#postScarcity
#solarPunk
#mutualAid

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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

I'm looking to build out the Free Fridge & Community Pantries in my town.

I'll continue to update this thread with my progress.

So, the idea is to have nodes throughout town that allow folks to "Give a Food, Take a Food". Similar to "Little Free Libraries" are to books. Folks who have extra food can drop it off there, folks who need food can grab it there.

The focus here is mutual aid, not charity. So, absolutely, if you are food insecure or hungry, utilize it, right. Beyond that though, this is a great piece of infrastructure to share extra food with your neighbors. I will go down to the free fridge we have in town, drop off some of my extra produce that I have grown, and then pick up a can of black beans if I need it for dinner that night. We're meant to contribute AND utilize the free fridge.

There are many ways to create and maintain free fridges, from something as simple as a small box or outdoor cabinet on up to full stand up refrigerators and freezers with an outdoor pantry.

In general, you want it to be a couple of things:
- Accessible to the public
- 24 hours a day, 7 days a week
- Unmanned
- No restrictions on who can utilize it or take food from it - it should NOT employ any means-testing
- Receive shelf stable food and/or refrigerated food and/or frozen food

Further, you can break up the different groups that are involved in the free fridge:
- The Host
- The Maintainers
- The Community

The Host - provides a location for the fridge and pantry to be installed and accessed. They also provide electricity to power the fridge/freezer

The Maintainers - this would be my group. We source, install, maintain, repair, and clean the fridge, freezer, and pantry.

The Community - contributes food to and utilizes food from the fridge and pantry. This is important. While the host provides the site and the Maintainers keep it operational, neither one has to stock food or coordinate utilization. The community does it themselves.

Having it split up like this is nice. Can folks from the Host group maintain it? Certainly. But extrapolating it allows for ease of use.

So. Keeping it stocked is up to the community. I've seen it stocked by gardeners who have extra produce (Zucchini turns folks into socialists is the joke! You just grow sooooo much you end up LOSING FRIENDS when you try to push it off on others!). I've seen it stocked through Food Rescue efforts. Some families buy extra from the grocery store and this is a great place to drop it off. I've even seen the local Food Bank drop off extra food when they had left overs from a food distribution.

Keeping it utilized is also easy. You don't want the fridge to stay stocked, right. You want it to stay in the fridge for as short a period of time as possible before someone comes and grabs it. Heck! I've seen a food rescue of fresh produce from a farmer's market vendor be dropped off at a free fridge and then claimed by several families even before it had a chance to be placed physically into the fridge! This is ideal. One fridge and pantry needs to serve the local neighborhood. That's many many families. It can only do so if its filled up and then utilized multiple times a day.

Next post, I'll put some resources on starting your own in your town.

#freeFridge#foodScarcity#foodSecurity#postScarcity#solarPunk#mutualAid

A local free fridge stands open. Fresh produce and bread are seen stocked in the fridge and freezer. Shelf stable cans and boxes are in the pantry.
A local free fridge stands open. Fresh produce and bread are seen stocked in the fridge and freezer. Shelf stable cans and boxes are in the pantry.
A local free fridge stands open. Fresh produce and bread are seen stocked in the fridge and freezer. Shelf stable cans and boxes are in the pantry.
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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

Results of that food rescue route I mentioned! A lot of produce. Neighbors came and grabbed a lot of the veggies when it came in. I put the rest into the fridge for others to grab later.

This was one vendor on one night.

We throw away so much good food.

I'm going to go find more food.

#solarPunk#mutualAid#foodRescue#foodWaste#freeFridge#postScarcity

closeup of boxes and crates including colorful okra
closeup of boxes and crates including colorful okra
closeup of boxes and crates including colorful okra
Closeup of boxes and crates including eggplants.
Closeup of boxes and crates including eggplants.
Closeup of boxes and crates including eggplants.
Close up of produce placed in the fridge including swiss chard, kale, cauliflower, carrots, and leafy greens.
Close up of produce placed in the fridge including swiss chard, kale, cauliflower, carrots, and leafy greens.
Close up of produce placed in the fridge including swiss chard, kale, cauliflower, carrots, and leafy greens.
Four large crates and a box of various produce including leafy greens, brassicas, carrots, peppers, etc in front of a free fridge and community pantry. The fridge is closed and the pantry has about thirty canned goods in it from previous contributions.
Four large crates and a box of various produce including leafy greens, brassicas, carrots, peppers, etc in front of a free fridge and community pantry. The fridge is closed and the pantry has about thirty canned goods in it from previous contributions.
Four large crates and a box of various produce including leafy greens, brassicas, carrots, peppers, etc in front of a free fridge and community pantry. The fridge is closed and the pantry has about thirty canned goods in it from previous contributions.
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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

Momentous Update on the Food Rescue Program!!!

We got our first food rescue!!!! Like official. In the app! Not an adhoc one. And it wasnt me who set this up! Another organizer got our first grocer. I put the route into the app and opened it up for volunteers.

And a community member picked it up!!!!!

We are rescuing food from a grocer and delivering to a free fridge!

Calling it: November 14th of last year (2024) - to now (June 10th 2025). 7 months from idea conception to a formal route / food rescue between a food seller and a food distributor. (With founding a mutual aid group, to growing it, to partnering with a national food rescue org - yay Food Rescue US! - to meeting with a grocer and connecting them to a free fridge all in between)

Now it's time to scale....

#solarPunk#mutualAid#foodSecurity#postScarcity#foodRescue#foodRescueUS#freeFridge

Screenshot of Food Rescue US app with a notification that a volunteer has claimed a food rescue route!
Screenshot of Food Rescue US app with a notification that a volunteer has claimed a food rescue route!
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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Alright, let's size out a shelf for us.

Quick centering moment...

This does not and SHOULD NOT be perfect.

Don't worry about maximizing space. Don't worry about making it perfect. Don't worry about being precise. If you're really worried, start small and get a feel for it, then make something bigger the next go around.

Also, don't follow my instructions perfectly. I'm building for my space. But you build for your space. Make it cozy. Make it yours. Make it different. Or do exactly as I do and enjoy it, I don't care, it's your's! lol!

We're putting together a place to hold a bucket of water. It need not be complicated or stressful.

Okay!!! LETS DIVE IN!!! YAY!!!

A couple things to keep in mind while we're choosing a shelving system (system used LOOSELY here):
- How much *floor* space do you have. Whats a good-ish footprint. Width and Depth.
- How tall are your walls / how high up the wall you want to build. Height.
- How much space you want between your shelves. Space for the grow bin and space for the plant to grow above it.
- (IMPORTANT!!!) Ensuring it can handle the weight of all the bins filled with water.
- With that, ensure it can handle getting wet. This should be a utility shelf.

So we're growing in doors. You have limited space.

If you have virtually NO space. Then you can do a single-unit grow bin with a footprint of 6 inches by 6 inches, right? You can find a link to that build in my bio page. But if you have a couple of feet, you can build a shelf.

I like to grow out of 5 gallon plastic (it says its food safe... I dunno...) storage containers. Think the 5 gallon "Commander" storage containers found at various chain hardware stores. The dimensions for these are 16.4" x 12.3" x 8.6". I can fit three of these side by side in a roughly 3ft wide shelf. There are many other options, but consider what you want to grow out in a roughly 3ft by 2ft footprint shelf, right? You pick your grow bins, plastic, glass, metal - but we'll use these bins as the example moving forward.

Ok. That's my footprint. Roughly 3ft wide. 2ish ft in depth. That's what I want any given shelf footprint to roughly measure.

Looking around my house. I have a section of floor space that I can push my clean clothes pile out of the way and make room for 3x2 shelf. Heck. In a corner, I can put a 3x2 shelf facing one direction and squeeze another 3x2 shelf against the other wall and it makes a 5x3 L shape thingy... Cool. I'm doing that. Gonna put my lettuce wall in the corner.

My height is roughly 9ft.... holy shit, that's a tall ceiling. Okay... Anyhow, you sort out how tall your ceiling is. You don't have to build all the way up, right. You can build out along your wall if you want more shelving. But that gives you the max amount you can play with.

Now here's the big thing. You're going to want adjustable shelving. That's key. That lets you set up the distance between shelves to tailor it to your grow bins and plants.

I've found two options (let me know if you find more!):
1) Adjustable Wireframe Utility Shelves
2) Adjustable Wooden Storage Shelves

Frankly, the wireframe utility shelves are your best option. They are generally affordable. They are adjustable. You can attach all sorts of things to it with zip ties and the like (good for setting up your lights). They can hold a LOT of weight.... this is awesome. And the BIGGEST THING!!! While they are generally affordable when bought new, more importantly you can often find these used for cheap or even free via craigslist, facebook marketplace, or dumpster diving. They hold up for a long time and people give these away all the time. Go snag some for free.

But! I live with someone else. And they have veto'd it for the lettuce wall. They're cool with a wireframe shelf in a utility closet or garage, but not next to where we are eating. But they bring about an important point. They associate wireframe utility shelves with work (they were a baker several years ago). And that specifically looks too utilitarian to them. They want more wood and nature in their lives. So! I'm going with the second option.

The adjustable wooden storage shelves.

I can stain them. I can paint them. I can make them really pretty. ( I pointed out that I could make the wireframe pretty too!!! And you can!!! But I don't have personal negative vibes associated with wireframe... I must compromise! And I do so gladly and easily. 😜 )

Real quick aside and to that point... Aesthetics are REALLY important. You absolutely must make these things look pretty. And you can do so very simply and without a lot of cost. Decorate the shit out these shelves. Whether you're going for hygge, or solarpunk, or cottagecore, or for psychedelic jackson pollock splatterpaint. Make it pretty for you and your's. I'm tired of minimalism... no more millenial beige. You can do that.. I don't mind. But make it to where when you look at this shelf, you smile and your heart lifts and you breathe easier. Make your space a place of beauty.

Ok, back to shelves... The one bad thing that I've found for a lot of the adjustable wooden shelves though, is they CAN NOT hold a lot of weight. Like... the one I'm looking at right now, the shelves sit on little pegs that sit in a hole in the side wood. That's shit. Absolute shit. A little bit of water weight and those pegs will pop right out and down goes the shelving.

So, I'll have to buy some metal brackets to hold these shelves up. The wood of the shelf is good wood (not particle board that can separate if it gets wet) and it can hold weight. The side beams can hold weight. Wood is good in compression. Its just the joints that suck. Alright, cool. I'll use the pegs to get the selves in the right place and then I'll bracket them down.

For me, I'm going to go with the Ikea Ivar special: (not an ad). It's what I have used on my current kitchen garden shelf. And I've liked it so far.

Lastly, how many shelf sections (the flat space to hold your bins) do you need? This depends on how high you make the shelf and how much separation you want between your shelves.

For me, with my specific grow bins, I need around 1ft 10ish inches. That leaves enough room for the height of my bins. The height of the plants I'm growing here. And a little space for my LED grow light strips. With that and my room height, I can get 5 shelves in with the top shelf holding a grow bin and me attaching grow lights to my ceiling. I think my math maths... check me if I'm wrong...

Alright! So here are the dimensions for my shelving system. This is for me. Your's will be different. I'm getting two setups with five shelves each:
Height: 89inches
Width: 35inch (shelves are 33 inches themselves)
Depth: 20inches

I'll need to buy some simple brackets for the back. I'm going to buy some pretty brackets for the front. And some stain for futher prettiness.

That gives me five rows of six bins that grow five plants each.

So that's 150 heads of various leafy greens.

If I stagger it out with a new growth every week and if these plants mature at six weeks (first growth - four weeks second and maybe third growth), that means I can get a first growth of 25 plants each week on a continuing rotating schedule!

I can't eat all that lettuce and leafy greens.

I'm going to HAVE to give away a lot to my neighbors for free.

#solarPunk #indoorGardening #verticalFarming #hydroponics #kratky #kratkyMethod #vegetableGardening #gardening #postScarcity #foodSecurity

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@tinker@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Lettuce Wall Thread

Materials purchased!

I splurged on making it pretty with decorative shelf brackets. Just means it'll take a couple more crops to pay for itself.

Next up will be staining and assembling.

#solarPunk #hydroponics #indoorGardening #verticalFarming #vegetableGardening #postScarcity $foodSecurity

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A picture of bare wood shelving. The side panels look like ladders and go up just past eight feet. The wood shelves themselves are stacked against the wall. The wood is untreated and unstained.
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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

The Kratky Hydroponic Lettuce Wall will be comprised of a couple of things:

1) A utility shelf with adjustable shelving
2) Full spectrum LED "grow" light strips w/ timer
3) Grow bins

That's it.

The utility shelf can be broken down into the following requirements:
- DANGER!!! WARNING!!! IMPORTANT!!!: The shelves should be able to actually hold the weight of your grow bins. Water is heavy. Many shelves by themselves cannot support the weight of the water and will need support. So check the weight rating on the shelves you get. We'll continue to talk about this further as we built out the shelf.
- ANOTHER DANGER!!! WARNING!!! IMPORTANT!!!: You need a way to anchor your shelves to the wall SECURELY!!! You don't want this thing tipping over. You build it too high and it falls on your kid or dog or cat and they may die. Secure this to your wall. Especially the higher you build it.
- Shelves need to be adjustable to allow enough space for the bin to sit and for the plant to grow
- A way to attach the light strips to the shelf above the grow bin
- Bonus: Make it pretty

The Grow Light Strips can be broken into the following requirements:
- They should fit the length of the shelf you pick and be attachable to it in some way
- You should be able to control them with a timer (either on the light itself or set up with a wall socket timer
- Have a method of increasing the light or decreasing the light (easily add more light strips if needed, or adjust brightness, etc)
- Be full spectrum "grow" light. Note: it does not have to SAY grow light. Sometimes lights are like cakes. A regular white cake is cheap. Add the name "Wedding" to that same cake and it gets expensive. As long as the LED light strip generates enough light for a plant to eat, we're good.

The grow bins can be broken down into the following requirements:
- They should hold water.
- They should be fully opaque and not allow any light into the bin itself.
- They should hold some sort of grow medium to allow a plant to grow on top and provide access to the roots to get into the bin to access the nutrient water
- Bonus: Make them pretty

That's it.

No pumps.
No aerators.
No central reservoir.

Just a place to put a kratky bin and grow lettuce.

We'll tackle how to size and shop for a utility shelf next.

#solarPunk
#indoorGardening
#verticalFarming
#hydroponics
#kratky
#kratkyMethod
#vegetableGardening
#gardening
#postScarcity
#foodSecurity

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@tinker@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Alright, let's size out a shelf for us.

Quick centering moment...

This does not and SHOULD NOT be perfect.

Don't worry about maximizing space. Don't worry about making it perfect. Don't worry about being precise. If you're really worried, start small and get a feel for it, then make something bigger the next go around.

Also, don't follow my instructions perfectly. I'm building for my space. But you build for your space. Make it cozy. Make it yours. Make it different. Or do exactly as I do and enjoy it, I don't care, it's your's! lol!

We're putting together a place to hold a bucket of water. It need not be complicated or stressful.

Okay!!! LETS DIVE IN!!! YAY!!!

A couple things to keep in mind while we're choosing a shelving system (system used LOOSELY here):
- How much *floor* space do you have. Whats a good-ish footprint. Width and Depth.
- How tall are your walls / how high up the wall you want to build. Height.
- How much space you want between your shelves. Space for the grow bin and space for the plant to grow above it.
- (IMPORTANT!!!) Ensuring it can handle the weight of all the bins filled with water.
- With that, ensure it can handle getting wet. This should be a utility shelf.

So we're growing in doors. You have limited space.

If you have virtually NO space. Then you can do a single-unit grow bin with a footprint of 6 inches by 6 inches, right? You can find a link to that build in my bio page. But if you have a couple of feet, you can build a shelf.

I like to grow out of 5 gallon plastic (it says its food safe... I dunno...) storage containers. Think the 5 gallon "Commander" storage containers found at various chain hardware stores. The dimensions for these are 16.4" x 12.3" x 8.6". I can fit three of these side by side in a roughly 3ft wide shelf. There are many other options, but consider what you want to grow out in a roughly 3ft by 2ft footprint shelf, right? You pick your grow bins, plastic, glass, metal - but we'll use these bins as the example moving forward.

Ok. That's my footprint. Roughly 3ft wide. 2ish ft in depth. That's what I want any given shelf footprint to roughly measure.

Looking around my house. I have a section of floor space that I can push my clean clothes pile out of the way and make room for 3x2 shelf. Heck. In a corner, I can put a 3x2 shelf facing one direction and squeeze another 3x2 shelf against the other wall and it makes a 5x3 L shape thingy... Cool. I'm doing that. Gonna put my lettuce wall in the corner.

My height is roughly 9ft.... holy shit, that's a tall ceiling. Okay... Anyhow, you sort out how tall your ceiling is. You don't have to build all the way up, right. You can build out along your wall if you want more shelving. But that gives you the max amount you can play with.

Now here's the big thing. You're going to want adjustable shelving. That's key. That lets you set up the distance between shelves to tailor it to your grow bins and plants.

I've found two options (let me know if you find more!):
1) Adjustable Wireframe Utility Shelves
2) Adjustable Wooden Storage Shelves

Frankly, the wireframe utility shelves are your best option. They are generally affordable. They are adjustable. You can attach all sorts of things to it with zip ties and the like (good for setting up your lights). They can hold a LOT of weight.... this is awesome. And the BIGGEST THING!!! While they are generally affordable when bought new, more importantly you can often find these used for cheap or even free via craigslist, facebook marketplace, or dumpster diving. They hold up for a long time and people give these away all the time. Go snag some for free.

But! I live with someone else. And they have veto'd it for the lettuce wall. They're cool with a wireframe shelf in a utility closet or garage, but not next to where we are eating. But they bring about an important point. They associate wireframe utility shelves with work (they were a baker several years ago). And that specifically looks too utilitarian to them. They want more wood and nature in their lives. So! I'm going with the second option.

The adjustable wooden storage shelves.

I can stain them. I can paint them. I can make them really pretty. ( I pointed out that I could make the wireframe pretty too!!! And you can!!! But I don't have personal negative vibes associated with wireframe... I must compromise! And I do so gladly and easily. 😜 )

Real quick aside and to that point... Aesthetics are REALLY important. You absolutely must make these things look pretty. And you can do so very simply and without a lot of cost. Decorate the shit out these shelves. Whether you're going for hygge, or solarpunk, or cottagecore, or for psychedelic jackson pollock splatterpaint. Make it pretty for you and your's. I'm tired of minimalism... no more millenial beige. You can do that.. I don't mind. But make it to where when you look at this shelf, you smile and your heart lifts and you breathe easier. Make your space a place of beauty.

Ok, back to shelves... The one bad thing that I've found for a lot of the adjustable wooden shelves though, is they CAN NOT hold a lot of weight. Like... the one I'm looking at right now, the shelves sit on little pegs that sit in a hole in the side wood. That's shit. Absolute shit. A little bit of water weight and those pegs will pop right out and down goes the shelving.

So, I'll have to buy some metal brackets to hold these shelves up. The wood of the shelf is good wood (not particle board that can separate if it gets wet) and it can hold weight. The side beams can hold weight. Wood is good in compression. Its just the joints that suck. Alright, cool. I'll use the pegs to get the selves in the right place and then I'll bracket them down.

For me, I'm going to go with the Ikea Ivar special: (not an ad). It's what I have used on my current kitchen garden shelf. And I've liked it so far.

Lastly, how many shelf sections (the flat space to hold your bins) do you need? This depends on how high you make the shelf and how much separation you want between your shelves.

For me, with my specific grow bins, I need around 1ft 10ish inches. That leaves enough room for the height of my bins. The height of the plants I'm growing here. And a little space for my LED grow light strips. With that and my room height, I can get 5 shelves in with the top shelf holding a grow bin and me attaching grow lights to my ceiling. I think my math maths... check me if I'm wrong...

Alright! So here are the dimensions for my shelving system. This is for me. Your's will be different. I'm getting two setups with five shelves each:
Height: 89inches
Width: 35inch (shelves are 33 inches themselves)
Depth: 20inches

I'll need to buy some simple brackets for the back. I'm going to buy some pretty brackets for the front. And some stain for futher prettiness.

That gives me five rows of six bins that grow five plants each.

So that's 150 heads of various leafy greens.

If I stagger it out with a new growth every week and if these plants mature at six weeks (first growth - four weeks second and maybe third growth), that means I can get a first growth of 25 plants each week on a continuing rotating schedule!

I can't eat all that lettuce and leafy greens.

I'm going to HAVE to give away a lot to my neighbors for free.

#solarPunk #indoorGardening #verticalFarming #hydroponics #kratky #kratkyMethod #vegetableGardening #gardening #postScarcity #foodSecurity

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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Oh shit. Gonna build a lettuce wall.

Can't stop. Won't stop.

Design Goals
- Low effort / passive / automated (After initial build, only requires 30 mins of work a week to maintain)
- "Inexpensive" (measured in how quickly it pays for itself compared to shopping at grocery store)
- Small footprint for indoor spaces (uses vertical space as opposed to horizontal space)
- ADHD friendly (you dont have to keep monitoring it. Set and forget)
- Provides entire personal need of leafy greens in continuous fashion
- Provides excess of personal needs in order to continuously share freely with neighbors

(Follow this thread in the coming months to watch the buildout. I'll post design theory and application along. It'll be vendor/brand agnostic. And I'll post up methods to tailor it to your space.)

(Photo below of prototype. It works! Time to scale it.)

#solarPunk #indoorGardening #verticalFarming #hydroponics #kratky #kratkyMethod #vegetableGardening #gardening #postScarcity #foodSecurity

Photo of leaf shelf with three bins hosting 15 plants. 5 each of butterhead, goldrush, and arugula). The heads of lettuce fill the space and fall over the sides of the bins showing bounty.
Photo of leaf shelf with three bins hosting 15 plants. 5 each of butterhead, goldrush, and arugula). The heads of lettuce fill the space and fall over the sides of the bins showing bounty.
Photo of leaf shelf with three bins hosting 15 plants. 5 each of butterhead, goldrush, and arugula). The heads of lettuce fill the space and fall over the sides of the bins showing bounty.
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@tinker@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

The Kratky Hydroponic Lettuce Wall will be comprised of a couple of things:

1) A utility shelf with adjustable shelving
2) Full spectrum LED "grow" light strips w/ timer
3) Grow bins

That's it.

The utility shelf can be broken down into the following requirements:
- DANGER!!! WARNING!!! IMPORTANT!!!: The shelves should be able to actually hold the weight of your grow bins. Water is heavy. Many shelves by themselves cannot support the weight of the water and will need support. So check the weight rating on the shelves you get. We'll continue to talk about this further as we built out the shelf.
- ANOTHER DANGER!!! WARNING!!! IMPORTANT!!!: You need a way to anchor your shelves to the wall SECURELY!!! You don't want this thing tipping over. You build it too high and it falls on your kid or dog or cat and they may die. Secure this to your wall. Especially the higher you build it.
- Shelves need to be adjustable to allow enough space for the bin to sit and for the plant to grow
- A way to attach the light strips to the shelf above the grow bin
- Bonus: Make it pretty

The Grow Light Strips can be broken into the following requirements:
- They should fit the length of the shelf you pick and be attachable to it in some way
- You should be able to control them with a timer (either on the light itself or set up with a wall socket timer
- Have a method of increasing the light or decreasing the light (easily add more light strips if needed, or adjust brightness, etc)
- Be full spectrum "grow" light. Note: it does not have to SAY grow light. Sometimes lights are like cakes. A regular white cake is cheap. Add the name "Wedding" to that same cake and it gets expensive. As long as the LED light strip generates enough light for a plant to eat, we're good.

The grow bins can be broken down into the following requirements:
- They should hold water.
- They should be fully opaque and not allow any light into the bin itself.
- They should hold some sort of grow medium to allow a plant to grow on top and provide access to the roots to get into the bin to access the nutrient water
- Bonus: Make them pretty

That's it.

No pumps.
No aerators.
No central reservoir.

Just a place to put a kratky bin and grow lettuce.

We'll tackle how to size and shop for a utility shelf next.

#solarPunk
#indoorGardening
#verticalFarming
#hydroponics
#kratky
#kratkyMethod
#vegetableGardening
#gardening
#postScarcity
#foodSecurity

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@tinker@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 6 months ago

Today's food rescue: a bunch of submarine sandwiches from a local cafe!

Stuck em in the free fridge.

#solarPunk#mutualAid#foodRescue#foodSecurity#postScarcity#freeFridge

The same sandwiches place in the free fridge. They take up a whole shelf even stacked up on each other.
The same sandwiches place in the free fridge. They take up a whole shelf even stacked up on each other.
The same sandwiches place in the free fridge. They take up a whole shelf even stacked up on each other.
22 submarine sandwiches. Some in brown paper wraps, some in tin foil. A seal sticker says "Enjoy!".
22 submarine sandwiches. Some in brown paper wraps, some in tin foil. A seal sticker says "Enjoy!".
22 submarine sandwiches. Some in brown paper wraps, some in tin foil. A seal sticker says "Enjoy!".
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Oh shit. Gonna build a lettuce wall.

Can't stop. Won't stop.

Design Goals
- Low effort / passive / automated (After initial build, only requires 30 mins of work a week to maintain)
- "Inexpensive" (measured in how quickly it pays for itself compared to shopping at grocery store)
- Small footprint for indoor spaces (uses vertical space as opposed to horizontal space)
- ADHD friendly (you dont have to keep monitoring it. Set and forget)
- Provides entire personal need of leafy greens in continuous fashion
- Provides excess of personal needs in order to continuously share freely with neighbors

(Follow this thread in the coming months to watch the buildout. I'll post design theory and application along. It'll be vendor/brand agnostic. And I'll post up methods to tailor it to your space.)

(Photo below of prototype. It works! Time to scale it.)

#solarPunk #indoorGardening #verticalFarming #hydroponics #kratky #kratkyMethod #vegetableGardening #gardening #postScarcity #foodSecurity

Photo of leaf shelf with three bins hosting 15 plants. 5 each of butterhead, goldrush, and arugula). The heads of lettuce fill the space and fall over the sides of the bins showing bounty.
Photo of leaf shelf with three bins hosting 15 plants. 5 each of butterhead, goldrush, and arugula). The heads of lettuce fill the space and fall over the sides of the bins showing bounty.
Photo of leaf shelf with three bins hosting 15 plants. 5 each of butterhead, goldrush, and arugula). The heads of lettuce fill the space and fall over the sides of the bins showing bounty.
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