🇬🇧🚨Leak: Many countries that said NO to #ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided—even though the 2025 plan is even more extreme!
🗳️ The vote is THIS October.
👉 Tell your government to #StopChatControl!
Act now: https://chatcontrol.eu
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@echo_pbreyer Steht EL für Griechenland bisher dachte ich das wär GR?!
@echo_pbreyer
Hältst du es für sinnvoll, in Deutsch an das Büro von Magnus Brunner, dem Kommissar für Inneres, zu schreiben?
Ich gehe mal davon aus, dass der die Chatkontrolle befürwortet
@wolf Weiß nicht, ob du da viel erreichst. Wenn du aus Deutschland kommst, schreibe besser deutschen Ministern und Abgeordneten.
@echo_pbreyer
"Bitte deine Regierung, von der Europäischen Kommission die Rücknahme des Vorschlags zur Chatkontrolle zu fordern."
"Fordere die Bundesregierung dazu auf, die Chatkontrolle konsequent und vollständig abzulehnen und den eigenen Einfluss im Rat der EU zum Schutz unserer Grundrechte geltend zu machen."
Wie macht man das wenn man nicht gerade ständig viel in der Politik unterwegs ist und Ahnung hat?
Warum gibt es nicht einfach eine Petition, ohne stundenlangen Aufwand..? o.O
@echo_pbreyer
Die Kinder zu schützen ist ein trojanisches Pferd. Sie dazu zu nutzen ist auch eine Art Kinder zu missbrauchen
Die Kinder zu schützen ist ein trojanisches Pferd. Sie dazu zu nutzen ist auch eine Art Kinder zu missbrauchen
@echo_pbreyer Für Deutsche Leser gibt es hier eine Webseite, die einen Beispielbrief formuliert, den man an die Politiker senden kann. Er/Sie bezieht sich dabei auf die UN Menschenrechte, die EU und das Deutsche GG. Außerdem erwähnt er/sie die Aussagen des Kinderschutzbundes
https://untertauchen.info/2025/08/chatkontrolle-es-liegt-an-deutschland/
@echo_pbreyer maybe you could provide a template what to write to the government, ministers, politicians?
@echo_pbreyer First step: Politicians must provide (publish openly) all communication to all citizens, also their private ones.
@echo_pbreyer
Ask your government to call on the European Commission to withdraw the chat control proposal
France voted left against far right, won the election then defeated side ignored the results and put facist, far right bootlickers in power. They wipes themselves with nationwide elections results, they don't listen to millions of people in the street. Sorry but suggesting to "ask your goverment" sound totaly disconnected from reality.
@jon France opposed for a long time, understanding that breaking encryption jeopardises national security. The government could be made to understand this once again.
@echo_pbreyer this particular government was put in place after losing a national vote. They keep pushing their laws by force using executive orders, bypassing our elected representatives, ignoring all the democratic calls to halt their widely hated, unjust politics.
Again, sorry but "ask your government" and " they can be reasoned with" sounds totally disconnected from reality. In France, this ship has sailed.
Again, sorry but "ask your government" and " they can be reasoned with" sounds totally disconnected from reality. In France, this ship has sailed.
@jon According to the meeting record France say the support in principle, but they are concerned about being flooded with false positives. In German: https://netzpolitik.org/2025/internes-protokoll-eu-juristen-kritisieren-daenischen-vorschlag-zur-chatkontrolle/
@echo_pbreyer Thx for taking the time to answer. I trully appreciate your work and actions. I really would like to help. However, there is no way I'm writing a polite letter to a fascist like Retaillau or call any of his collaborators. There is no world in which I'm speaking in favor of "national security" to those nazi aspiring m**f***.
Is there any other mean of action that we can take to fight against this?
@jon It would also help if the socialist/left forces called out the French government about this, or if associations protested. Otherwise you can of course help lobbying other governments, e.g. in Belgium, or support LQDN.
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@echo_pbreyer Dass CDU und SPD da nicht zustimmen ist unwahrscheinlicher als ein 6er im Lotto. 😫
@mono Sehe ich anders, das ist nicht im Interesse der deutschen Wirtschaft
@echo_pbreyer man konnte wenig Sympathien mit der Fraktion FDP haben, aber bei Bürgerrechten: sie war dagegen („Rückschritt in dunkle Zeiten unseres Landes“)… und ist ‘raus aus dem Bundestag.
@echo_pbreyer
Ich glaub Deutschland (jedenfalls die Unionsparteien) hat sich längst auf die Seite der Chatkontrolle-Befürworter geschlagen, man sagt es nur noch nicht vernehmbar.
Ich glaub Deutschland (jedenfalls die Unionsparteien) hat sich längst auf die Seite der Chatkontrolle-Befürworter geschlagen, man sagt es nur noch nicht vernehmbar.
@isf @echo_pbreyer so ist es, Protest bei Dobrindt und Reiche wird sicher ungeöffnet im Papierkorb landen.
🇬🇧🚨Leak: Many countries that said NO to #ChatControl in 2024 are now undecided—even though the 2025 plan is even more extreme!
🗳️ The vote is THIS October.
👉 Tell your government to #StopChatControl!
Act now: https://chatcontrol.eu
@echo_pbreyer We're losing the whack-a-mole.
@echo_pbreyer is there an official EU petition opposing the project that we could sign? I think that would be rather useful in this context.
@echo_pbreyer
Each and every chat application seem subjected to #evil, #dystopian #chatcontrol.
Is there any way to protect our #privacy? Can #FreeAsInDesktop or #selfhosting software be helpful?
In that case which? #matrix? #Jami? Something else?
Each and every chat application seem subjected to #evil, #dystopian #chatcontrol.
Is there any way to protect our #privacy? Can #FreeAsInDesktop or #selfhosting software be helpful?
In that case which? #matrix? #Jami? Something else?
@echo_pbreyer
Quite amazed that my shithole country is on the right side for once.
#ATpol
Chat Control https://iloth.net/2023/05/traduction-du-dossier-chat-control-2-0-de-patrick-breyer/ est de noveau en discussion au parlement Européen. La France est en faveur. Il y a une pétition à l'assemblée nationale contre.
https://petitions.assemblee-nationale.fr/initiatives/i-2458
Il faudrait la faire grossir un peu. (C'est la seule que j'ai trouvée, mais j'ai vu des duplicatas par le passé. Si vous en trouvez une plus signée, dites le moi, et je mettrai ce lien à jour, pour qu'on se concentre sur la plus grosse.)
#chatControl #surveillance #privacy #censorship#france #petition
@echo_pbreyer Bring this to other social media, tell your friends!
@echo_pbreyer Sad to see the government of my country continuing with the support for this madness (in the process there was even a change of the party in power).
I guess, overall, our political class is too illiterate to properly understand all the implications of such a thing. They seem to rely solely on stated intentions, and nobody ever showed any interest in discussing the subject.
I guess, overall, our political class is too illiterate to properly understand all the implications of such a thing. They seem to rely solely on stated intentions, and nobody ever showed any interest in discussing the subject.
@dethos Never give up lobbying them!
@echo_pbreyer I really hate to say this but that page is a communications nightmare
@Kierkegaanks Point taken, can you help improve it?
@echo_pbreyer @Kierkegaanks I've made a small gist on GitHub that outlines the issues I've personally found with it.
Accessibility-wise: mainly that links are not underlined, and images are not clickable
Text-wise: too much information that may be overwhelming for a casual reader, no descriptions for some of the words, and some inconsistencies and typos.
Perhaps surface easier-to-understand (and easier-to-read) TL:DR sections for some of the content? Your average Joe most likely won't understand some of the legalese or complex language on the site.
https://gist.github.com/alextecplayz/9aeefe8f7752c0ec67fb1de981ef12b5
@alextecplayz @Kierkegaanks Hi Alex, very helpful. I fixed the most important issues now. As for text/content changes it would help to have specific proposals.
@echo_pbreyer @Kierkegaanks That is so much better! Thank you!
On a side note, I'd like to translate the article from chatcontrol.eu to Romanian, would that be fine with you? I don't know if my blog has any audience, but it'd still be helpful to make this post accessible to more people 😄 (of course, under the CC-BY-4.0 license)
@echo_pbreyer Sadly I’m not very experienced writing copy and don’t know the subject well enough. Maybe try calling out for someone who is and has the time to spare to polish it?
Slavery doesn't usually end well for those doing the enslaving
@echo_pbreyer
@echo_pbreyer What do you actually mean by ChatControl?
@echo_pbreyer Chat Control is planned in Austria.
@echo_pbreyer
Is Austria still opposing or at least neutral though? The Austrian government appears to be very open to surveillance these days.
Is Austria still opposing or at least neutral though? The Austrian government appears to be very open to surveillance these days.
@r_alb Austria is opposed due to a binding resolution of its parliament
@echo_pbreyer
Thank you for providing some background!
Thank you for providing some background!
However, I doubt that this resolution will hold indefinitely. The Austrian parliament very recently expanded the surveillance capabilities of our intelligence service and our current government (which has a majority in parliament) - especially minister for the interior Karner - apparently favors digital surveillance.
Parliament is currently in recess, but they will meet again in September.
@echo_pbreyer Makes me proud to be a Dutch citizen, but I’ll send them another e-mail nonetheless just as a reminder why we should still be against it.
@echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social here in Italy there’s a gov made of fascists, they love it unfortunately
@echo_pbreyer Color blindness here checking in, map makes no sense to me 💚
@echo_pbreyer do we know when in October? On October 3rd and 4th there are Czech parliamentary elections, so a lot can change
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