Pixelfed bans AI generated contributions.
We heard you! We are not accepting any AI or agentic code contributions, and will keep building Pixelfed by hand.
Thank you for your feedback!
https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed#ai-generated-contributions
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Pixelfed bans AI generated contributions.
We heard you! We are not accepting any AI or agentic code contributions, and will keep building Pixelfed by hand.
Thank you for your feedback!
https://github.com/pixelfed/pixelfed#ai-generated-contributions
@pixelfed Actually banning agentic contributions isn't really a good idea, as people can actually achieve good quality with coding agents.
@alexchapman @pixelfed It's not about the outcomes, it's about how they were achieved. "Exitus acta probat" is one hell of a way to go through life.
Yeah, maybe someone can whip together code that works using Ai. Does that make it okay how LLM infrastructure is killing any progress we've made towards mitigating climate change? How it rots people's brains? How it destroying the internet?
If not wanting the world to burn makes me an extremist, I will happily bear that mark of honor.
@Legit_Spaghetti The infrastructure isn't killing anything, that's just a lie made by these people who are delusional and think extremist things like oh this is run by fascists and these people are trying to be the next version of Hitlar, like come the fuck on people, stop indulging in your dumb delusions for once. @pixelfed
The infrastructure isn't killing anything
You can tell yourself whatever you want so you can feel better about using this shit, and you can use whatever excuses you like. But just because you refuse to face reality, that doesn't mean the rest of us have to applaud your decision to ignore facts because they inconvenience you.
Every lie we tell ourselves incurs a debt to the truth, and eventually, that debt will have to be repaid.
@alexchapman Code is art ai cannot make art @pixelfed
@sackofbones Code isn't art, its the thing that makes programs possible, its a utility. @pixelfed
@alexchapman
Yes, computer programming is often considered an art form.
Definition and examples
For example:
- Wiktionary defines art as "Skillful creative activity, usually with an aesthetic focus" and even gives "art of programming" as an example.
- Donald E. Knuth wrote a classic of the field called "The Art of Computer Programming" about contemplating the beauty of algorithms.
- Practical disciplines like architecture can be considered arts if they focus on creating objects of beauty and creativity as well as utility.
How art applies to programming
As for programming, it could be considered an art because:
- The source code is beautiful and elegantly coded.
- The algorithms used are brilliantly applied.
- The architectural design is pleasantly well-organized.
- The user interface is simple, colorful, and well-polished.
- The overall aim is to inspire as well as to enable.
State of the art
So you can see something like the iPhone advancing the state of the art, not just in making phone calls, but in bringing Steve Job's creative aesthetics to the masses.
@pixelfed
@sackofbones OK but if people can produce good quality code, then so what if an agent was used somewhere in the process, that's irrelevant. @pixelfed
@alexchapman Do you do programming? Or are you like the ai bros insisting ai slop is art? @cinebox @pixelfed
@sackofbones There's no such thing as AI slop in programming unless you mean those idiots who one shot everything. @cinebox @pixelfed
@sackofbones I answered it dumb fuck! @cinebox @pixelfed
Please stop spamming my notifications with this pointless back and forth.. I don't think you're ready to have this conversation
@cuirass_entertainment Oh I've had it, and its clear people are too full of themselves to even see both sides of it. @pixelfed
@alexchapman We are here because we're happy that a project listened to their user base and decided to no longer allow AI generated code. Why, exactly, are you here?
@chadmccullough Because if it were not for a few dozen anti-AI people, the dev would not have done that. And to put it into context, there's thousands of Pixelfed users, and a few dozen, maybe a couple hundred at most, are part of this anti-AI nonsense, so quite a minority. @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
@alexchapman So, how do you know how many Pixelfed users wanted the project to stop using AI?
Being anti-AI is not nonsense. Its use is full of ethical issues that people like you don't seem to give a shit about, but many people just like me do give a shit about.
@chadmccullough That's your view, but more people either don't give a damn or also think that AI has its uses. @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
@alexchapman Listen, use or don't use it. I don't really care. I choose not to use it or support it any way. If you want to support it, then support it. But you really need to do a better job of knowing when and where to defend your use of it. This is not the place.
@alexchapman it doesn't matter what the results are, dude. It wastes massive amounts of resources to run, it centralises power and money with terrible people, and it can't function without industrial scale plagiarism.
It's unethical technology. It doesn't matter if it does the job well
@Hyperlynx Well, it doesn't matter if we use it, we just have to fight for on device AI, but until that happens, we use what we can.
go back to twitter, techbro
well it's nice you complained to me, that someone else reported you?
sounds well-adjusted
but on the topic you introduced: i enjoy engaging and mocking bigots and vatniks and other sordid types (you're not that, bear with me here). in order to keep them talking, until they generate enough material for a completely airtight case to get them banned. *then* i report them
what do you think alex:
should i add AI techbros to my troll hunt amusements?
indeed, you can do whatever you want
so enjoy pushing AI here, and harvesting disgust
some people have a kink
@alexchapman @pixelfed
Pixelfed made a decision, a fresh and bold one, and I'd like to hope it's not up for debate.
@cuirass_entertainment Well, the maintainor didn't originally wanna make it, but anti-AI extremists pushed him to it. @pixelfed
@alexchapman "Anti-ai extremists" fuck off, either you're being a troll or you're actually braindead. If being against the fascist slop machine makes me an extremist then so be it, being extreme isn't bad. MLK was an extremist in his age @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
@sackofbones I'm neither, the anti-AI people need to give it a fucking rest. @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
@alexchapman So the latter, got it. If you aren't against it then you're for it, in this case, like with fascism.
> the anti-AI people need to give it a fucking rest
"The anti fascist people need to give it a fucking rest"
Now tell me you think I should take a rest opposing the fascist failed technology burning up the planet and wasting so many precious resources that cements in place the permanent under class while empowering the ruling class to control literally everything we do?
@cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
@sackofbones Fascism has nothing to do with this. @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
@alexchapman So something made and controlled by fascists has nothing to do with fascism? @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
@sackofbones Its not controled by fascists, that's just a lie by you extremists. @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
@alexchapman @cuirass_entertainment @pixelfed
Frodo was an anti-ring extremist.
@alexchapman @pixelfed I'm sorry, I don't feel like engaging with someone who is taking this both extra-serious and not serious whatsoever.
@alexchapman That’s two “well actually”s in one sentence, plus you missed the point entirely. Congratulations.
@pixelfed great position
I bet your code base will be way healthier compared to others once the poison in the well of ai contribution start to accumulate
@pixelfed@mastodon.social not sure how much I would trust someone who couldn't make this decision on their own.
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@pixelfed it might be pretty unrealistic to keep AI entirely out of your code if you base it on any other open source code that’s not yours. A range of other projects struggle with that.