Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/
@eff Well, that is the end of me supporting your apparently traitorous org.
Get the fuck out of here EFF with this take.
@eff I did NOT expect this from you. Please reconsider.
@eff this really is a disappointing, "not donating again"-level of take
@eff yooooo this sucks
i mean, completely unsurprising from y’all at this point, but regardless. sucks. big sucks. sucks shit.
I remain unconvinced.
As a layperson, I’ve been told that the point of copyright has been to make sure the writer and their publisher can earn a livelihood, so they may live to write another days
I know if I were to consistently copy or distribute copyrighted articles in such a way that it affects these companies bottom line to the point where they downsize, they’d come for me with an arsenal of lawyers.
So there are consequences for us small people.
But along comes OpenAI and the gang, and because they transform these copyrighted works into a model, it’s suddenly alright if they don’t license it even though they actually replace a whole numbers of writers?
That doesn’t add up to me.
I don’t buy the hand waving in this article about “it’s not replacing jobs” either. It shouldn’t, but it does, right now, because management isn’t always smart.
I think copyright is flawed and a bandaid for a not-working economic system, but you can’t rip off the bandaid before you fixed the system.
So that’s a no from me.
@eff This is a profoundly disappointing take by the EFF.
@eff
What
The
Fuck
I'm stunned. This is the last organization I expected to take a stance against individuals and placate to the authoritarians.
@eff This is NOT all that is going on, EFF account-minder, and I reject your softened and euphemized framing of this issue. This isn't about "training" or "transformation" or any positive purpose, it's about capturing and destroying information, grabbing the books and other works and stuffing them into the machine and then making sure nobody else can use the stuff for their own rackets.
This is a fraud. The entire #tech sector is consecrated to CHEATING. You can't honestly say that there's a positive "transformative" purpose in the GenAI obsession.
There's no reason at all at work. Their thing isn't an "AGI superintelligence" and they know it. When do we stop pretending that this is just kind-hearted software engineers wanting to change the world? They exist, but not anywhere powerful in U.S. business or technology.
@eff oh, AI is transformative alright. it's transforming earth into a hellscape even faster than it already was.
who has access to everything they stole, anyway? if their stolen shit leaked, who would get in trouble? no one?
@eff Burn in hell, you fascist backstabbers.
@eff regurgitating content in a statistically probable manner is not transformation. Transformation requires intent.
Robut has no intent.
There is case law on this already.
Please unfuck yourselves.