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Friends, have you seen the investigation on UK students, including those at Oxford and Cambridge, hiring Kenyans to write their papers and dissertations?
I assume it wasn't cross Atlantic news as the media only seems to be interested in laundering eugenics into the mainstream.
Think about the audacity of them telling Black people that we're subpar DEI hires and frauds such and these students hiring Black people to do their work for them and pass it off as their own.
That is the lot in life far too many wish for us. Take our intellectual products and the credit, but shut us out of the spoils.
@timnitGebru white people whitepeopleing
@timnitGebru Given the extensive use of underpaid labor in Africa for labeling and moderating images and text for training LLMs, this is pretty unsurprising, and perhaps at least more honest than what Anthropic, OpenAI, and the other LLM hawkers do... I wish they'd listened, Timnit.
@timnitGebru Where do you think ChatGPT learned from ?
@timnitGebru They are likely doing better work than the posh twats in the UK, and in our current dystopia that means AI is getting better fodder for training? Trying for a silver lining here. #AcedemiaIsDoomed #noai
@timnitGebru It's long been a tradition among the English upper-crust to make some unfortunate social "inferior" do all the brain drudgery. At least this time they seem to have paid for it.
Rich, entitled morons won't change, until people tell them to shove their money, do the work, or GTFO of academia. Until they do, they will remain those untalented creeps who run the world. I'd rather they were chucked in the sea than the refugees they love to blame for all our woes.
/rant. Sorry.
@timnitGebru To be fair, according to the article the people hiring them have no idea at all that they are hiring Kenyans and believe to hire people from the US or the UK.
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The writers create fake IDs, using white profiles and names, because they say it helps convince clients they are up to the task. “If you go online now and try to find help with an essay, invariably they sell you the service as if it’s coming from somebody that’s in the UK or the US,” said Kingori.
@timnitGebru
I feel like anyone having someone else do their academic work is assigning themselves to the Immobile Kitten cohort. 😬
https://gizmodo.com/the-seriously-creepy-two-kitten-experiment-1442107174
@timnitGebru colonizers just can't stop colonizing
@timnitGebru shameful, these Kenyan scholars deserve so much more.
"if the world was fair, these scholars would be able to operate on the world stage as themselves"
would love to be part of making that a reality. form some kind of alter-network of intelligentsia outside formal academia that sheds the racist and elitist background that continues to plague those institutions, while retaining the intellectual rigor, knowledge creation, and collaboration. mb it already exists in various ways...
@timnitGebru I wish I could say I was shocked, but with the Right (and these racist fuckers are right wing for sure) it's *always* projection—they live by DARVO.
@timnitGebru I wish I could say I was shocked, but with the Right (and these racist fuckers are right wing for sure) it's *always* projection—they live by DARVO.
@cstross @timnitGebru does not surprise me one bit. When I visited Kenya in 2016 I had more nuanced and deep conversations around the politics and economics of it with our Safari guide, and other Kenyans we met than I'd ever had with another British person. Also met some really sharp and talented developers in Nairobi who were clearly doing more with way less than any developers in the west had at their disposal.
Meanwhile in Edinburgh Uni... Some toffs can barely string a sentence together
@timnitGebru Holy crap I never knew of that. Thanks for sharing.
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