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Hat irgendjemand aus der deutschsprachigen Wissenschaftscommunity schon persönliche Erfahrungen mit dem
Open Science Network
https://openscience.network/
gesammelt?
Es scheint eine Bonfire Instanz mit ORCID-Integration zu sein, eine Art Community Forum für Forschende im Fediverse... Wie LinkedIn aber ohne den Bullshit?
Kennt ihr das? Ich wüsste gern mehr darüber.
Boosts welcome!
@AvSchroeder 🖐️ Ich bin ein Teil davon und werde gerne darüber sprechen
@AvSchroeder hui, noch nie gehört - aber sieht spannend aus.
In "What researchers are saying" sehe ich schon mal ein paar bekannte Gesichter :)
cc @UlrikeHahn @fresseng
@lavaeolus @AvSchroeder @UlrikeHahn
Indeed ! I cannot read or write German nor Dutch, so will trust automated translation for a reply.
Yes, I think this is very promising, and somewhat already functional today. It is a flavour of @Bonfire that is dedicated to science. I see it somewhere between late Twitter and ResearchGate, but ethical, self-hosted, owned and controlled by the scientific community, and, most important connected to the Fediverse and thus Mastodon.
@lavaeolus @AvSchroeder @UlrikeHahn @Bonfire
Well, actually, I think it already has much more features than the old Twitter and Research Gate combined... and they are heading for communities : https://bonfirenetworks.org/posts/why-community-matters-groups-as-the-next-step-for-the-fediverse/
@lavaeolus @AvSchroeder @UlrikeHahn @Bonfire
However, I have not tested fully, as there is no flagship instance. I have been testing it only through the sandbox (https://sandbox.openscience.network). As it based on Bonfire, you can test Bonfire on its campgroung : https://campground.bonfire.cafe. But you will miss the science specific features.
I am working in my university to see if we can run an instance of Open Science Network.
@fresseng @lavaeolus @UlrikeHahn @Bonfire yes, I do think we need a flagship instance to get it started and running. Sandboxing will not cut it.
@AvSchroeder @lavaeolus @UlrikeHahn @Bonfire
They do not want to, and I understand why : it is to keep it truly federated.
Furthermore, running such an instance has costs. My feeling is that it is the responsibility of the scientific community to host OSN servers.
We manage to do it for emails (SMTP protocol) : why not for OSN (ActivityPub protocol) ?
@fresseng@universites.social correct, and it's also responsibility of the scientific community to engage and codesign with us the exact features, user experience and goverance models that are needed for open science to thrive beyond capitalistic and closed platforms.
The goal of the Open Science Network has always been to give the scientific community a real opportunity to shape and govern not only its own servers, but also the software roadmap, rather than reproducing a top-down model in which yet another company builds features for others to adopt without meaningful participation :)
@AvSchroeder@fedihum.org @UlrikeHahn@fediscience.org @lavaeolus@fedihum.org @pierre@universites.social @unif@universites.social @jorgeluis@mastodon.pub.solar
Hum... looks like we need a community for that 😉
@UlrikeHahn @lavaeolus @jorgeluis @pierre @unif @AvSchroeder
@Bonfire @UlrikeHahn @lavaeolus @jorgeluis @pierre @unif @AvSchroeder
I tried to set a Mastodon collection with all the people interacting today over OSN in these threads... but it seems that most of us do not allow this or are on instances that do not allow it.
If anyone has an idea on how to start this community up... you are welcome.
@fresseng @Bonfire @UlrikeHahn @lavaeolus @jorgeluis @pierre @unif I'll check my settings... Sometimes I think it would be easier to have "maybe" as a default setting -- so that I get a message "someone is trying to add you, care to join?" that I can then approve or decline.
But someone would find a way to abuse it and that is why we cannot have nice things. Sigh.
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