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@mfru@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 10 hours ago

are people on here that have opinions about #Solid (the pod technology not the javascript framework / library)

why is it good / not good?

is it usable?

is it in use?

it doesn't seem to have the same popularity as i.e. #ActivityPub / the #Fediverse, even though the concept of solid pods seems to synergize quite well with the idea of a decentralized web, as far as i can tell

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Emelia
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@thisismissem@activitypub.space  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

There were a few other things (conflicting standards such as ACP vs WAC), but the JSON-LD was repeatedly the thing that developers found hard to wrap their head around. "How do I create a schema?" is a pretty normal question for an application developer, when you're used to working with traditional web app stacks. "Oh, it's JSON" and then they learn, nope, it's not: every property is optional, every property is one value or an array of values. The JSON-LD learning curve is so high that even people I think know it, generally go "yeah, nah, I still don't fully get it"

So to develop an application with JSON-LD you basically need to deal with garbage in hopefully data out. It's not familiar nor simple to 99% of web developers. It's an incredibly niche community of people who actually get it, and they tend to work at companies who really benefit from the properties of JSON-LD.

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@thisismissem@activitypub.space  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@mfru@mastodon.social I worked on Solid at Inrupt on the javascript sdk team, and the biggest problem solid has is learning curve, which is why I've been saying "AT Protocol is a bunch of the solid ideas but waaaay simpler learning curve" partly because you don't need to mess with json-ld

That and not even Inrupt appear to publicly do Solid anymore, they're all wallets now, apparently?

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@reiver@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@thisismissem @mfru

In your opinion, did you feel that the complexity of Solid was ONLY due to JSON-LD?

Or, were there other (non- JSON-LD) things that made it complex, too?

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@nextgraph@fosstodon.org  ·  activity timestamp 9 hours ago

@mfru at the intersection of Solid and Activitypub there is @activitypods that is BTW pivoting to @nextgraph as we think the truly decentralized POD based on RDF is in fact NextGrsph. Of course we are biased, but maybe we are onto something

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@mfru@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 45 minutes ago

@nextgraph @activitypods ActivityPods / Nextgraph looks extremely interesting!

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