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@The_Quantum_AdList Why? Can it block streaming adverts from Netflix?
@Edent there's only one way to find out.
@The_Quantum_AdList Yes. You test it and let me know. Thanks!
Virgin have also upgraded me to Gigabit fibre.
Which, as I wrote a few years ago, is mostly pointless.
https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/12/whats-the-point-in-gigabit-broadband/
I wonder when gigabit will actually be useful?
@Edent We've found it useful when pushing data around. Useful with large work files uploading/syncing with the likes of O365. For @ministraitor uploading video files. We have ethernet for this, and wifi for general stuff.
@Edent seeing same here. 300->500 got me from 250 to 310. No, I don't want to pay more for gigabit unitl i can get it thanks.
@Edent it's going to be rare that you *need* gigabit. What would be sensible would be to get the best speed you can and then share the cost with your neighbours. Of course, most retail ISPs would hate that idea.
Around here, it's still VDSL only and we frequently hit the upload limits with just two users making interactive use unbearable.
I'd far rather fibre ISPs charged for actual terabytes transmitted every month rather than artificially limit the speed possible for a contract. Bursty= good.
@Edent this is helpful because I’m currently in a bit of a quandary. I’m tempted to recommend my neighbour (now we have CityFibre on our street) go with an expensive but reliable 160/160 connection from @aaisp over the allure of a probably pointless 1G and two years of lock in elsewhere. Since they upload videos frequently >160 could make a real difference but 160 would already be like going from a lame horse to Thrust SSC.
@Edent I get sustained 550MB d/l from steam. But you're right not a lot of use cases, unless you have 3 or 4 people in your household doing this regularly.
Oh and on west coast canada we get 3gig fibre for GBP50 :P
@Edent gigabit speed is still possible with most consumer grade devices and I like the 500 mbit upload that comes with it here. In Belgium they’re also already selling 2.5 gbit and 10 gbit symmetric. I wonder how many people actually have the hardware to use that at home.
Keep at 350Mbps for a tenner more (£55) Rise to 500Mbps for a fiver more (£49)
… 500Mbps was cheaper than 350Mbps? That doesn’t make any sense.
Anyway, if it’s symmetric then gigabit is definitely useful for self-hosting.
@Edent Gigabit fiber's utility is mostly in "re-selling" the network, for example if you host things at home for multiple internet users.
The static IP problem can be solved with a VPS that reverse proxies traffic to your house through a VPN connection.
Anyway, if you want stupid fast Internet, sign up using this link and Virgin will both give us £50.
Using iperf, I can get a max of about 940Mbps between machines on my LAN.
I suspect that might be a limit of my router, USB-C Ethernet Hubs, and ancient cabling.
Most Internet speed tests simply can't handle gigabit connections.
Cloudflare's gets to about 900Mbps which I suspect is about as is good as possible.
But the reality is almost no service on the Internet can support gigabit home connections.
@Edent I've recently upgraded the core of my home network to 2.5Gb using TP-Link switches and 2.5Gb usb3 dongles for the devices. Very handy for faster backups or other access to the NAS. Definitely got the 2.5Gb limit. 10Gb still too expensive to be worth it but cost is coming down.
@Edent seem to get about 700mbps from a Pi 5 connected via a switch to my router- so in lieu of a 700mbps connection I think I’m okay with overpaying slightly for 1G 🤣
Unfortunately I’ve run out of disk space so I can’t download anything 🙃
I think in most cases 1G is just becoming the norm because it’s a defacto limit for consumer gear and a nice, round, catchy number to sell. “Gigabit” has a nice ring to it.
@Edent I presumed the use case for it was a household of multiple simultaneous high bandwidth uses, but would even 4 people streaming separate HD TV shows get code to touching the sides?
@http_error_418 Nope. They all say 25MBps is needed for 4K.
Obviously they can fill a buffer faster with a quicker connection. But the bottleneck is more likely to be the WiFi speed in a noisy environment.
@Edent TCP? Might be an interesting experiment to try enabling the `bbr` TCP congestion control algorithm and trying the test again:
echo 'bbr' | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_congestion_control
(I gather there is a similar incantation for Windows.)
@Edent have you seen any difference in video call apps like google meet, zoom, discord, or streaming *upload* like twitch?
streaming download is fine for me on a ~60mbps connection but the fidelity of the above apps is often awful and I'm wondering if fibre would fix it
@Edent I found having symmetric bandwidth was more useful than faster download. Currently with YouFibre and have Gigabit up&down. My phone has a wireguard tunnel open all the time to my home router (when not on wifi) and it is lightening fast.
Yes! I have 500:500, and while I like the idea of 1G/1G, in practice, it would make absolutely no noticeable difference to me whatsoever.
@neil @Edent main reason for me wanting to go above 500Mb down is to get faster upload as the upload is tiny in comparison. Anyone if I lived a few miles up the road I'd get CityFibre and symmetric speeds. Some day Open reach will support symmetric speeds, as the lack of upload is often the bottleneck.
@neil @Edent every now and again when trying to play games with friends online we will get blocked by a huge update that either was just out or didn't do an automatic download overnight. 1000Mbps would be much better than 500, but realistically the friend with only 250 is still going to hold us all back from playing together so still not going to gain me much...
@Edent do you have a pi-hole set up? that might cover it
@GroupNebula563 that's what I'm asking. Does Pi-Hole cover it?
@Edent it might, i'm not sure. if you look at the logs of the pi-hole you might be able to see what domains it's making requests to when it shows ads
@Edent I don't want to jinx things, but our Netflix with ads account has never shown us any ads ever.
I think it's probably a mismatch between geo-IP for the Isle of Man and their ad server, but I don't want them to fix it. 😆
@isleofmandan I'll look into moving 😆
@Edent no, sadly not by DNS