If you own glasses that record people without their consent, we can't be friend, and please don't talk to me.
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@Em0nM4stodon @Furthering This should go without saying. I will not have a discussion with anyone wearing those glasses, let alone be friends with them. It's a serious invasion of privacy. Who the hell knows where the photos go?
@Em0nM4stodon I'm concerned that it'll cause a real backlash on folks who wear glasses that aren't spyware.
Which is not unprecedented as glasses have historically been unfavorable for any number of reasons.
@Em0nM4stodon How does this differ though from having a phone that can record people without their consent, a smart car or a smart speaker?
@Em0nM4stodon There is a silent or silenced issue about cars in modern cars. If the US could force Tesla's compliance, they have a running surveillance fleet in Europe.
@Em0nM4stodon same for me
#CreepGlasses - this is a really good tag!
@Em0nM4stodon I cannot express how much I've been dying for glasses that are also screens since I read Snow Crash.
And I cannot further express how angry I am that the companies finally making that a reality are fucking it up by making them inherently surveillance devices.
@Em0nM4stodon And I will punch them
I don't only want them to not talk to me; I don't want them to look in my direction.
@MegaMichelle Yes, this. Especially this.
I agree with you, first off.
Also, I have no idea what the laws are like in Canada or anywhere else outside of the US.
That having been said…
Recording Video in Public Places
Recording video in public is generally permissible in places like public parks, city streets, and sidewalks, where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. This means that if something is visible to the naked eye in a public space, you can record it. This principle extends to filming government buildings and the actions of public officials, like police officers, performing their duties in public.
This right does not extend into areas that, while publicly accessible, are considered private. The key determinant is the “reasonable expectation of privacy,” meaning you cannot use technology to see through the walls of a private home from a public street. The legal framework protects what people can plainly see, not what can be captured with invasive technology.
The Legality of Recording Audio
Capturing audio is governed by stricter laws than recording video alone, due to federal and state wiretapping statutes. The federal Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), often called the Wiretap Act, makes it illegal to intentionally intercept any wire, oral, or electronic communication. A violation of this act can lead to both criminal penalties and civil lawsuits.
The federal law, and the laws in a majority of states, operate under a “one-party consent” rule. This means you can legally record a conversation if you are a party to that conversation, as your participation implies your own consent. Most states and the District of Columbia follow this standard.
A number of states, however, have enacted more stringent “all-party consent” laws. In these jurisdictions, you must obtain permission from everyone involved in a private conversation to legally record it. States with all-party consent laws include:
- California
- Florida
- Pennsylvania
- Washington
If a conversation involves participants in different states, the best practice is to adhere to the strictest applicable law, which is the all-party consent rule.
Source: https://legalclarity.org/are-camera-glasses-legal-video-and-audio-recording-laws/
Obligatory: I'm not a lawyer.
It seems to me like, at least most places in the U.S., the fact that it records video is a non-issue while in public, at least in the legal sense, but also like the fact that it records audio could very easily make it illegal in public.
@the There is a difference between legal and ethical. I care much less about the former than the latter.
So do I. I also like to know how to get someone on a technicality when they're doing something unethical.
@the @Em0nM4stodon my thing on this is as it is for so many solidly starting bans is, be it from an ethical or legal standpoint: how is it enforced?
Many enforcement mechanisms being problematic at best, especially for & near both ends of the power spectrum.
More specifically: Are these glasses & similar going to get so popular that me &/or my spouse are going to get asked to remove our glasses (which cant record anything) to enter various spaces- like bathrooms, restaurants or medical centers?
*I'm somewhere between moderately & severely nearsighted which makes it rather dangerous for me to walk without wearing my glasses & his light sensitivity makes removal of glasses often problematic, just as barring them for him reading is a problem.
This is why I'd prefer a ban on this technology in it's use & ownership instead, because I don't really see how else, beyond asking all to at least temporarily remove their glasses, you could enforce a partial/specific use ban & to ask all of us to do so is a significant hardship.
@Em0nM4stodon Glassholes!
@Em0nM4stodon if I see this, I am taking out my phone, launching the camera app and sticking it right in the face of the person wearing these spy devices. Creepy as fuck.
@Em0nM4stodon What about recording ICE and police?
@Em0nM4stodon What if my glasses are FOSH, secure and private?
@neptune22222 If you're filming people without their knowledge and consent (unless it's in the public interest like recording police work), this is still wrong and creepy.
And even for public interest reporting, your camera should be visible.
@Em0nM4stodon Where I live, it's even illegal, it's a crime. @neptune22222
Right, I'm just making the point that whether it is a phone or glasses makes no difference.
@neptune22222 Yes, it does. People don't assume you are filming them when you are just wearing glasses. Most people with a rectangle pointed at them will suspect you might be filming them. The fact that it's disguised as glasses to record people without their knowledge matters a lot.
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