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Jürgen Hubert
Jürgen Hubert
@juergen_hubert@mementomori.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

The USA is currently proposing the #SAVEAct , which places further restrictions on what kind of identification you need for being able to vote.

For the sake of comparison, in Germany it's technically not necessary to show an ID when voting - you need to show your "Wahlbenachrichtigung", your notification about the election which you have received by mail. You need to register your legal residence in Germany anyway, so you should receive this notification automatically for all elections in which you are eligible.

However, if the organizers have any doubts about your identity, they can ask for some photo ID. This is typically done via the "Personalausweis" - a personal ID card which is mandatory to own in Germany. For people aged 24 or older, this costs €46 to renew, and it is valid for 10 years. It is also valid for travel within all #EuropeanUnion member countries, so you don't need a travel passport for those.

A travel passport is also valid for this purpose. It costs €70, and is also valid for 10 years.

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mhd
mhd
@mhd@tilde.zone  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@juergen_hubert Mandatory IDs are on of the topics that really rile up the Americans, of various political persuasions. Fears of government surveillance, federalism, number of beast conspiracy, pick your poison. Pretty much a non-starter.

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Jürgen Hubert
Jürgen Hubert
@juergen_hubert@mementomori.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@mhd

Yes, I gather that Americans prefer to outsource their surveillance to the private sector.

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Ghostrunner
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@ghostrunner@hachyderm.io  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@juergen_hubert im guessing there isnt a history of government id issuance offices inexplicably closing early whenever bus loads of poors arrive after a 2 hour drive either.

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Jürgen Hubert
Jürgen Hubert
@juergen_hubert@mementomori.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@ghostrunner

No, the voting system of the Federal Republic of Germany was _not_ set up with voter suppression in mind.

Getting personal ID is mandatory for German citizens, and voter registration is automatic when you register your residence (which is also mandatory).

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Shimmin Beg (he/him)
Shimmin Beg (he/him)
@shimminbeg@masto.ai  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@juergen_hubert @ghostrunner the "compulsory to own but you must pay €46 to renew it" catches my eye. That's an odd setup.

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Jürgen Hubert
Jürgen Hubert
@juergen_hubert@mementomori.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@ghostrunner @shimminbeg

In the end, it's not that different from paying taxes.

Although under certain circumstances, the government might waive the fee.

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Shimmin Beg (he/him)
Shimmin Beg (he/him)
@shimminbeg@masto.ai  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@juergen_hubert @ghostrunner oh yes, I'm just curious why it isn't just paid through taxes given that! I assume they have their reasons.

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