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Greg Sullivan
Greg Sullivan
@gregwardo@c.im  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@GeofCox this is incredibly cynical and ignores all of the benefits of advertising. Google is free to me. I watch many entertaining things without paying more than partial attention during commercials.

I don't disagree with the points you are making but this seems an intentionally one-sided view.

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Not The LBC Guy
Not The LBC Guy
@NotTheLBCGuy@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@GeofCox there’s a famous old quote; “half the money spent on advertising is wasted. The system only works because nobody can work out which half it is.” Thing is, these days with analytics you can tell exactly what works - and it’s way less than half, which is why IAB ad rates have fallen through the floor. The volume we see is desperation by publishers who now need 5-10 times as many cheap ads to make the same revenue.

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GeofCox
GeofCox
@GeofCox@climatejustice.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 30 seconds ago

@NotTheLBCGuy

Yes - I think we are becoming more resistant - fast fashion is discredited for many, for example, secondhand (albeit often disguised under euphemistic fashion terms like retro or vintage) is becoming more trendy.

I also think we're saturated. Most current products and services are changing in tiny increments. The main areas where there are big new consumer movements are in fact renewables - electric cars, solar panels, heat-pumps, etc - but these are not promising for big business as once bought they tend to reduce consumer spending - and in any case they're all made in China in state controlled or influenced companies.

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Janoschkowski
Janoschkowski
@janosch@det.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@GeofCox
Trying to avoid advertisings wherever possible, my reaction on some randon clleagues „it’s like in this famous advert..“ „I don‘t know it“

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A.A. Delafin, blackguard
A.A. Delafin, blackguard
@mysteriarch@climatejustice.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@GeofCox I remember during the early covid lockdowns, there was a huge lack of advertisements in my city. Most public panels were used for public service messages, very uniform and calming actually.

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Koen Hufkens, PhD
Koen Hufkens, PhD
@koen_hufkens@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@GeofCox No Logo by Naomi Klein deals with this issue (and labour practices)

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Greg Sullivan
Greg Sullivan
@gregwardo@c.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@GeofCox this is incredibly cynical and ignores all of the benefits of advertising. Google is free to me. I watch many entertaining things without paying more than partial attention during commercials.

I don't disagree with the points you are making but this seems an intentionally one-sided view.

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GeofCox
GeofCox
@GeofCox@climatejustice.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@gregwardo

But Google is not free to you. It is collecting information about you and selling that to advertisers - and you pay Google for that - albeit indirectly - when you buy the advertised products or services.

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Greg Sullivan
Greg Sullivan
@gregwardo@c.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@GeofCox I actually use duckduckgo but yeah

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Jeffrey Haas
Jeffrey Haas
@jhaas@a2mi.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@GeofCox Advertising ruins everything.

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