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Ben Werdmuller
Ben Werdmuller
@ben@werd.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

the Guardian

Revealed: How Substack makes money from hosting Nazi newsletters

Exclusive: Site takes a cut of subscriptions to content that promotes far-right ideology, white supremacy and antisemitism
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Pax Ahimsa Gethen
Pax Ahimsa Gethen
@funcrunch@me.dm replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@ben

As I've stated whenever this comes up, I am saddened that many of my fellow progressives continue to support the #Substack platform.

https://funcrunch.org/blog/2025/09/01/support-for-substack-is-normalizing-the-nazi-bar/

the funcrunch files

Support for Substack is Normalizing the Nazi Bar

[Image: The logo for Substack on a faded, pixelated red background with a swastika in the center.] As a Black trans US-American who is a long-time atheist, vegan, and pacifist, I am very accustomed…
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Taran Rampersad
Taran Rampersad
@knowprose@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 hours ago

@ben it is pretty interesting to me that everyone is looking for a platform when they could simply be their own and not be subject to changes in policies, etc, on centralized platforms.

Seeing this on the fediverse seems incongruent.

Something like technorati used to be could simply pull rss from writer sites and share them in a federated way.

And the article itself... yeah. But I would have found a way to squeeze the genocide that is still happening now into it.

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Ben Werdmuller
Ben Werdmuller
@ben@werd.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@knowprose I’ve been an indieweb advocate for a very long time and ran an indieweb platform. My take is that most people don’t want the maintenance overhead. That means choosing a turnkey platform - of which Ghost and WordPress are the obvious standouts because of the lack of lock-in.

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Taran Rampersad
Taran Rampersad
@knowprose@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 17 hours ago

@ben

If you're bored.... part 2 is also done. I will spare you the toot. 🤣 if you are interested, you will find it.
https://realityfragments.com/2026/02/08/substack-and-the-elephants-in-the-room-1-of-2/

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Taran Rampersad
Taran Rampersad
@knowprose@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@ben agreed.

We want convenience without responsibility.

Nothing new here.

Writing something now on this. On my platform. 🤣

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Jeri Dansky
Jeri Dansky
@jeridansky@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@ben Thanks for your comments and the link! I've just written to someone whose work I'd love to support — if it were on a different platform — and pointed them to the Guardian piece.

I don't have much faith that it will help, but it can't hurt to ask him to please move.

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Alireza
Alireza
@alireza@nrw.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@ben @rbreich

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Freedom News USA
Freedom News USA
@freedomnewsusa@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@ben

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Robert Kingett
Robert Kingett
@WeirdWriter@caneandable.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@ben Oh it’s very well documented. I’ve catalog most of them here, but I’ve got many more to add https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/20250425/

My small list of Critiques Against Substack, Sightless Scribbles

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Magnus Ahltorp
Magnus Ahltorp
@ahltorp@mastodon.nu replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@ben

Two persons in front of a house with Nazi flags

Caption: What do you mean, "there's a problem meeting there"?
Two persons in front of a house with Nazi flags Caption: What do you mean, "there's a problem meeting there"?
Two persons in front of a house with Nazi flags Caption: What do you mean, "there's a problem meeting there"?
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Mx Amber Alex (she/it)
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@amberage@eldritch.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@ben Substack also, when Musk had just bought Twitter, posted that "anyone who has a problem with Musk's fight for free speech" need not apply for a job with them. They've made it quite clear where they stand.

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Seth of the Fediverse
Seth of the Fediverse
@phillycodehound@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben This is the main reason why I don't pay for more subscriptions to Journalists that I want to support! They're on Substack. @MikeElgan is one of them. If he moved from Substack to Ghost, Beehiiv, I'd sub right away.

Hear that Mike! 😃

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Seth of the Fediverse
Seth of the Fediverse
@phillycodehound@indieweb.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben I wonder what @MikeElgan thinks. He's still so bullish on Substack.

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EllenJS
EllenJS
@EllenJS@mstdn.plus replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben

@molly0xfff wrote this “How I Set Up on Ghost” guide: https://www.citationneeded.news/substack-to-self-hosted-ghost/

Citation Needed

Migrating from Substack to self-hosted Ghost: the details

I migrated Citation Needed from Substack to self-hosted Ghost. Here is exactly how I did that.
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Sebastian Matyszczak
Sebastian Matyszczak
@sebastian@mastodon.com.pl replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben That was one of the reasons, why I left this walled garden.

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gabby wheels
gabby wheels
@gabbywheels@toad.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben Not just nazis but supports/inflates member counts, perhaps even funnels money to crunchy mom influencer accounts like Jessica Reed Kraus who worked through out 2034 to get Trump elected. Background on this is insidious. She's just a tool but what mechanisms behind the scenes enabled her at substack?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOnFire/

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leah & flutters & nose, oh my!
@mewsleah@meow.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben might be the first time it's been documented in a national newspaper though

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Ben Werdmuller
Ben Werdmuller
@ben@werd.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@mewsleah That’s probably true!

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Jonathan
Jonathan
@jmcrookston@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben thank you

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broodishly
broodishly
@brood@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben
also note their support and partnership with CBS killing and Trump quisling Bari Weiss's "The Free Press", a right wing reactionary publication.

https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/substack-announcement-bari-weiss-free-press

The Handbasket

Substack is at it again

“Why on earth would you brag to your users that you've partnered with a bunch of protofascists?"
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@kirakira@furry.engineer replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben substack posters when you tell them they explicitly support nazis: "ohh but the chicken is so good tho"

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Deb Nam-Krane
Deb Nam-Krane
@dnkboston@apobangpo.space replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben I don't have a fricking clue why people who claim to be all in for democracy and antifascism *choose* to put their information on Substack. I also don't understand why people need it proven--repeatedly--that Substack is a Nazi platform that has gotten *more* Nazi accounts since it was publicized that they hosted them. But here we are!

Good luck with the monetization, kids. (Spoiler: the scam has an expiration date, like all of the others.)

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Sam Chavez 🌈🌱🏜️
Sam Chavez 🌈🌱🏜️
@rootschange@federate.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben 💯 especially for activists, organizers, and people who want liberatory change.

You aren’t starting a Revolution on Substack.
You’re funding Nazis just by being in the platform.

https://www.rootschangemedia.com/substack-breaking-platformization-sharon/

the roots of change agency

🎙️ Does Substack Limit Change?| Breaking Platformization with Sharon Hurley Hall

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Alison Wilder
Alison Wilder
@alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben I have wondered if people were being a little overdramatic about this. I will wonder no more. They aren't.

Sorry, great people on substack. I will never subscribe to your newsletter as long as you use that service.

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FediThing :progress_pride:
FediThing :progress_pride:
@FediThing@social.chinwag.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@ben

For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

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Ghost: Blogs and newsletters on the Fediverse

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Elena Brescacin
Elena Brescacin
@elettrona@poliversity.it replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@FediThing @tchambers @ben Ghost has still serious #accessibility issues. So, I have another alternative @buttondown which is not decentralized. But currently I'm even trying the email subscription of @writefreely - which can be self-hosted. Then, depends on how "sophisticated" needs users have.

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Kerfuffle
Kerfuffle
@kerfuffle@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@elettrona @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely

Those are both registered in the US though, while Ghost's non-profit is registered in Singapore.

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Elena Brescacin
Elena Brescacin
@elettrona@poliversity.it replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@kerfuffle @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely yes I know - ButtonDown is in the US. And centralized. That's why I'm going to try alternatives. I can't use ghost (tried to self-host it with no accessibility result) and now I'm self-hosting writefreely, while I'll try email subscriptions

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django
@django@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@FediThing the self hosted version still needs a mailgun account (for newsletters), which is was an absolute PIA to find the free version https://signup.mailgun.com/new/signup?plan_name=dev_free&currency=USD 😢

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Mieke Roth
Mieke Roth
@miekeroth@socialserver.science replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@FediThing @ben ghost isn’t free as far as I see?

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@FediThing@social.chinwag.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@miekeroth @ben

It's free open source software (i.e. anyone can install, edit and release their own version) and the software itself is free of charge.

But you still have to pay the costs of hosting, either on Ghost.org or on your own server if you're self-hosting.

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@tallpaul@mastodon.scot replied  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

@miekeroth @ben @FediThing you also have to pay for mail delivery as you can only do that via Mailgun (even if you self host), who charge if you want to send more that 100 emails a day.

I have about 500 subscribers to my (free) blog so that's a problem.

There is also Beehive which is free up to 2500 subscribers and that's with them hosting, so I may move to them.

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Ben Werdmuller
Ben Werdmuller
@ben@werd.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 21 hours ago

@tallpaul @miekeroth @FediThing I pay for Ghost Pro which covers hosting and mail delivery. It’s not a ton of money and their support is really good. In contrast, Substack takes a huge chunk in fees if you start getting paid subscribers. And then there’s the Nazi thing. I consider the $30 worth it to avoid that alone.

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Kim Scheinberg
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@kims@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@FediThing @miekeroth @ben
As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

The Reframe

1 Year After Substack

State of the newsletter 2025, a vacation, a new book, and some thoughts upon the 1-year anniversary of moving The Reframe.
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