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Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅
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@ryanleesipes@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

Get off Gmail, use Thunderbird (and soon Thundermail).

https://www.androidpolice.com/giving-up-on-gmail-on-android/

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@TimePencil@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@ryanleesipes

Another *valuable* characteristic of the #Thunderbird client is that it can display an email's full headers.

All too commonly, an ESP's native client will NOT display the headers. (I'm looking at you, Gmail and Outlook.)

Worse, those same clients will often display only the "spoofed" sender details.

It's almost like their devs sat down and thought,
"How can we simultaneously make our app worse AND increase the likelihood of our users getting scammed? ... I've got it! Let's remove any possibility of seeing the email headers within our client app!"

I thank God, and Mozilla, for Thunderbird.

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Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅
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@ryanleesipes@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@TimePencil thanks. Yes! It's important that people are able to access all the information in the headers if they want! (why make that difficult/impossible to access to begin with?)

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@TimePencil@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@ryanleesipes

Absolutely!
Thunderbird's ability to show the headers has saved my parents, twice, from being victims of scammers.

Thanks again, Team Thunderbird!

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Canageek
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@Canageek@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@ryanleesipes I used Thunderbird from version 1.0 until recently, but they've broken everything SO HARD recently. Search stopped being reliable, and if you do connect it to a Gmail account it has mandatory pop-ups for eventsb even if they happened a week ago, and spams them even if you press dismiss all, with a buttload of error messages

I wish I could recommend it, but I'm looking into other email clients as I can't trust it anymore

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Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅
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@ryanleesipes@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@Canageek I run Thunderbird. Search needs an update (will happen) - and the event dialogue is broken (I think we may have a fix for that very soon).

I encourage you to jump to the monthly release (now the default on the website) and ride with us just a little longer.

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@Brendan@twit.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@ryanleesipes

I use Thunderbird on Linux and FairEmail on Android with my domain hosted at FastMail. I still have my original domain hosted on free Google Workspace or whatever they call it now since many family members still use it but my account forwards the few things it still gets to the new domain I setup 3 or 4 years ago. New domain means no spam so far.

I still have more to go to extricate myself from Google, Google Voice being the big one. Maps is another. I'm going to test GrapheneOS

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@ryanleesipes@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@Brendan I hear you. Sounds like you've got a pretty good set up. I hope you'll give Thundermail a try when it comes out. And at least check in on Thunderbird for Android regularly to see how it is progressing.

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