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@liaizon@social.wake.st  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

RE: https://tomkahe.com/@tom/115991043363824507

We should really get @matrix, @delta @swf @Bonfire and @xmpp people in a room to discuss how to move e2ee overlap work forward this year. It's time...

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@deepbluev7@nheko.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@liaizon@social.wake.st @matrix@mastodon.matrix.org @delta@chaos.social @xmpp@fosstodon.org @swf@socialwebfoundation.org @Bonfire@bonfire.cafe I think most of us are already in the same room with our booths and I also am quite sure that @braid@alpaka.garden, @HarHarLinks@chaos.social, @charlie@soyboy.solutions and me would love to participate in some amount for the Matrix side, since we are to some extend also paid to figure that out for the German state in some capacity.

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@kyva@meetiko.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@liaizon@social.wake.st @matrix@mastodon.matrix.org @delta@chaos.social @swf@socialwebfoundation.org @Bonfire@bonfire.cafe @xmpp@fosstodon.org but exclude Matrix pls 😅

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@frxe@friendsocial.inet.place replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@liaizon @matrix @Bonfire @delta @xmpp

latacora.com/blog/2019/07/16/t…

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The PGP Problem

The PGP Problem
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@liaizon@social.wake.st replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

RE: https://toot.fedilab.app/@apps/115986491904558099

There are many interested parties ready to work on e2ee here and we need to figure out how to do this right.

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@Bonfire replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@liaizon@social.wake.st definitely! we're doing a presentation at the decentralised communication FOSDEM room tomorrow with that goal in mind!

@delta@chaos.social @matrix@mastodon.matrix.org @xmpp@fosstodon.org ​

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@liaizon@social.wake.st replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@Bonfire oh wow I hadnt seen this. Will be there!

[Bonfire: Modular Communication Tools on the Open Social Web]
2:45 PM
https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/LSUYXG-bonfire_modular_communication_tools_on_the_open_social_web/

@delta @matrix @xmpp cc @benpate @evan @hongminhee

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@delta@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@liaizon @matrix @swf @Bonfire @xmpp fwiw some of us just launched autocrypt2 today, a new transport-independent e2e scheme to do PQC and reliable deletion (forward secrecy), using clock based instead of message based key ratcheting. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-autocrypt-openpgp-v2-cert-01.html

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@delta@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@liaizon @matrix @swf @Bonfire @xmpp fwiw some of us just launched autocrypt2 today, a new transport-independent e2e scheme to do PQC and reliable deletion (forward secrecy), based on clock based instead of message based key ratcheting. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-autocrypt-openpgp-v2-cert-01.html

Autocrypt v2 OpenPGP Certificates and Transferable Secret Keys

This document describes the "Autocrypt v2 Certificate", a standard structure for an OpenPGP certificate for Internet messaging. It offers defense against store-now-decrypt-later attacks from quantum computers through post-quantum hybrid cryptography. It also enables reliable deletion ("Forward Secrecy") of received messages even when adversaries capture encrypted messages in transit and later compromise the user's message archive and secret keys. The design uses deterministically ratcheted rotating encryption subkeys with predictable expiration combined with coordinated secret key material destruction. This document also describes the structure, use, and maintenance of the OpenPGP Transferable Secret Key that corresponds with the Autocrypt v2 Certificate.
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