Are we confusing “how things must work to exist” with “how we wish things already worked”?
A recurring tension is between present material reality and desired future conditions. Early-stage projects like #OMN must start inside existing constraints, not pretend they’ve already escaped them.
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@hamishcampbell This is a false opposition.
The critique begins from present material constraints such as housing, health, income, and legality.
The issue is that these constraints are treated as personal alignment problems when survivability is deferred.
This post restates the tension without engaging its consequences.
@warmsignull This could cercal for ever and nothing is likely to come from it. So #KISS Q. where do the resources come from to tick the boxes you keep pushing in front of the needed commons building of the #OMN?
@hamishcampbell I think we are now talking past each other.
My point concerns signaling, tone, and how present constraints are interpreted while survivability is deferred, not funding sources or delaying commons building.
I will leave it here.
@warmsignull so it's a #block, nothing is to be done practical to build commons. This was a predictable path, hopefully the #4opens dialogue is useful for someone so it was not just a mess.
No resources were created for this energy used, worth thinking about that for the composting we need.