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@homegrown@social.growyourown.services  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

Mastodon server admins, important news!

The Mastodon developers are going to stop suggesting mastodon.social as a "default server".

Instead, the "default" server suggestions are going to be ones for a user's language and/or geographical location.

If your server matches these:

- General public server
- Running vanilla Mastodon
- Mastodon Covenant compliant
- Have existed for 1+ year
- Have shut-down & disaster plans

...then see this post for details: https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon/115989802617165343

#MastoAdmin

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CathyBikesBook
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@CathyBikesBook@mstdn.plus replied  ·  activity timestamp 25 minutes ago

@homegrown recently moved from mastodon.social. it wasn't a bad server in my opinion, it was just really big. It's decent for new people getting their feet wet, and then they can move to smaller servers. I also found out that apparently, alot of servers have mastodon.social blocked

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@smeg@assortedflotsam.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 38 minutes ago

@homegrown I have a problem with Mastodon Server Covenant item #3: my server only has 3 active users, meaning 33% of the users are an admin. I don't see the value of trying to find someone to whom I can grant server infrastructure access.

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@skyfaller@jawns.club replied  ·  activity timestamp 1 hour ago

@homegrown This sounds amazing. Maybe once the spammers are more distributed we can un-limit m.s.

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Emilio ʕ̡̢̡ʘ̅͟͜͡ʘ̲̅ʔ̢̡̢
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@Minimac@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@homegrown @zazzoo I was clueless joining mastodon.social until someone pointed out that there are various servers. Mastodon.world is great. I shut down my first account on mastodon.social.

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@lexinova@cyberplace.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@homegrown good news

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AasenGaare
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@AasenGaare@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@homegrown

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Brad Thornborrow
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@bradthornborrow@thecanadian.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@homegrown Awesome news!

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@caycedo@col.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@homegrown benévolo dictador, excelentísimo @gabriel, me dirijo a usted con información importante. La del toot de arriba

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Todd Portland
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@toddportland@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@homegrown

A suggestion regarding your criteria list:
- Number of active users (in range 100~1000)

This allows a new user to browse the Local feed; not too few and not too many posts.

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@homegrown@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@toddportland

This isn't my criteria, it's the criteria for being listed on the Mastodon developers' new "default server" recommendations 🙂

It doesn't change their current server list, it's just about which servers that are automatically suggested when new people join.

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Hein Ragas
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@heinragas@mublog.nl replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@homegrown No server-admin in their right mind configures their server for open sign-ups. Hard pass.

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@johnefrancis@cosocial.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@homegrown heads up @coop

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@coop@cosocial.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@johnefrancis thanks for the call-out!

They're looking for servers with open registration that are general purpose, and we are neither.

So we won't benefit directly - but it is still awesome for Mastodon and the Fediverse that they're doing this, and our server will ride the rising tide. 🙂

- Mick

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@maru@rebel.ar replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@sanmartin

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@elduvelle@neuromatch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@homegrown it also has to have open registrations..

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@homegrown@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@elduvelle

That's true at the moment, yes.

From reading between the lines on the responses by Mastodon's official accounts in the discussions on this, the requirements are not necessarily set in stone, especially on things that already allow listing in the main index like forked software and registration requests.

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@Mrfunkedude@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@homegrown @elduvelle Of course they're only looking for open registration instances. Who wants to use an app that they have to wait approval on???

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@globcoco@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@homegrown

Super happy about this

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@homegrown@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

p.s. The complete thread from the developers at https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon/115989801184595302 has even more info about this initiative:

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@homegrown@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

p.p.s. Some people are misunderstanding why this is happening. It's not just about providing new people with local servers, but about keeping the network decentralised.

By keeping the Fediverse spread out on many servers, it protects the Fedi from being taken over and brings all kinds of other benefits to users: https://fedi.tips/why-is-the-fediverse-on-so-many-separate-servers

All these benefits and the Fediverse itself might be in danger if one server occupies too much of the network. Thankfully the Mastodon devs are taking action.

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@shalien@mastodon.projetretro.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@homegrown sounds / feels fishy

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@krafting@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@homegrown this is actually really great!

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@FinchHaven@sfba.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@homegrown

It's seriously about time

Way past time, as a matter of fact

I've been on Mastodon generally since November 2, 2022, and it was an issue back then

cc @Mastodon @MastodonEngineering

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@jawarajabbi@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@homegrown

This is good to see. I've watched the public exchanges about the default server issue and to see that it has been resolved equitably is nice!

#Mastodon

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@Ember@blobfox.coffee replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@homegrown "running vanilla mastodon" will exclude a lot of good instances :/

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@homegrown@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@Ember

It will, but getting them to step away from recommending mastodon.social is a massive step in the right direction.

Also they do leave the door open for forked software instances. The exact wording they use on their criteria list is:

"Run default Mastodon (for now)"

Also also, this is just about the default instances recommended up front, they would still have the complete listing behind that which does already include Glitch etc instances.

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@eric@geldmacher.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@homegrown

This is good news!
I know the apps sign up flow has been a concern of yours (and others) for a while. Hopefully this will result in healthier, more even distribution of new accounts across the network.

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@homegrown@social.growyourown.services replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@eric

Indeed! And it's a really clever solution they've come up with, it solves two problems at once by prioritising servers in the user's own language or location and encouraging decentralisation that way.

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