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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org  ·  activity timestamp last week

Really, the only thing you need to know about Google's agentic #AI #Chrome "Auto Browsing" feature is that #Google says YOU are responsible for all actions the agentic AI takes on your behalf.

That's the whole ballgame. Right off the cliff. Don't touch it. Don't use it. Don't get anywhere near it.

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Deborah Hartmann Preuss, pcc
Deborah Hartmann Preuss, pcc
@deborahh@cosocial.ca replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@lauren @ShaulaEvans wait: "auto-browsing"?

So, I don't have to browse the web anymore?
Cool, cool!

😵‍💫🤨

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Sparky
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@Bright5park@kind.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lauren While I agree with the opinion that people shouldn't even entertain the thought of letting an "AI" agent control their browser or making them perform tasks for them...

Frankly, Google absolving themself of any and all responsibility and putting that burdon onto the user seems neither suspicious nor strange to me.

I mean, would you *really* have expected Google to say "We're so confident that WE take full responsibility for any issues the agent causes"?

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@Bright5park Of course, they'd prefer not to take responsibility for anything no matter how many people are screwed over, however, it is likely that the legal system over time will place more and more responsibility on these firms, as Section 230 is gradually necessarily disassembled, with unfortunate collateral damage. Generative AI is going to force this situation.

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Quasit
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@Quasit@kolektiva.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lauren
I wonder how long it will be before they change it from a subscription model to a mandatory universal rollout?

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@Quasit Well, they can't force you to actually use it, but that's not the point.

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sylvie
sylvie
@sylvie@chitter.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@lauren theoretically: they can. if you have installed chrome, they literally could RCE if they really wanted to

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@sylvie No, because it requires user interaction to create the requests. Don't make the requests, there's nothing for it to do.

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sylvie
sylvie
@sylvie@chitter.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@lauren you installed software, that means the software can do ANYTHING it wants, in theory.

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Cap E Bara
Cap E Bara
@cap_ybarra@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lauren it may be our sole purpose in life now is to be a litigation shield for some googlers' promo package

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salguod, man  🍂🍁 lazysupper
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@lazysupper@famichiki.jp replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lauren

It's a shame people still use Google search at all. 😒

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lazysupper There is no recommended alternative with anything approaching Google's reach.

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salguod, man  🍂🍁 lazysupper
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@lazysupper@famichiki.jp replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lauren
IMO search reached the point of quality vs quantity a while ago.

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Herman  🇪🇺🇺🇦🇾🇪🍋
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@Herman@mastodon.world replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lauren That is f*cking crazy …

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@Herman Not from Sundar's standpoint! He's luvin' it.

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Sam "Windows Gert" (paar Tage nicht da)
Sam "Windows Gert" (paar Tage nicht da)
@weirdmustard@cyberpunk.lol replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lauren It will, however, make for some interesting court cases. Wouldn't wanna be the person on trial, though.

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Sharon McCarthy
Sharon McCarthy
@ienvision@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@lauren I've switched from Google as a search engine to ecosia - seems like less AI slop and allegedly they are very environmentally responsible

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Rexx Deane 🏳️‍🌈
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@rexxdeane@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@ienvision @lauren Except for the fact that they promote AI features and simply sit on top of Bing.
The irony.
I did email them to compain about the two-facedness of that.

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@rexxdeane @ienvision This isn't even about search per se, it's about merging Chrome and Gemini.

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Rexx Deane 🏳️‍🌈
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@rexxdeane@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@lauren @ienvision I hope someone maintains a gemini-free chromium. I don't even like having to use chromium for the sites that don't like firefox. :(

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Iwillyeah
Iwillyeah
@Iwillyeah@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

Can I ask someone to explain this to me like I'm a child who doesn't fully understand the implications. Except I'm an adult.

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HTPC NZ
HTPC NZ
@htpcnz@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@lauren hahaha while everyone is distracted by the "copilot", "captain do no evil" as always taking over....

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Lauren Weinstein
Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

I can but warn. I cannot control.

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Johns
Johns
@Johns_priv@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@lauren And people will still use it and be surprised when shit inevitably hits the fan

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Lightfighter
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@Lightfighter@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@lauren Reverse centaur.

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Simplicator
Simplicator
@Simplicator@federate.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@lauren Like putting a “safety driver” in a self-driving car & blaming them (even criminally) when something goes wrong

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