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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

MEDIA LITERACY REMINDER: The Daily Telegraph and Daily Mail editorial pages exhibit a human version of what in AI is termed "model collapse"—if you feed a language model on its own output, future output rapidly deteriorates into self-parody.

The owners of the right-wing press read their own media and it rotted their brains.

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slotos
slotos
@slotos@toot.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross In other words, don’t believe your own propaganda.

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Ra
Ra
@Ra@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_for_the_Printer

Pay for the Printer - Wikipedia

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Flaming Cheeto
Flaming Cheeto
@PizzaDemon@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross whereas conventional wisdom is that the WSJ editorial page doesn't read the WSJ front page at all; just disconnected from reality

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Orb 2069
Orb 2069
@Orb2069@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross

Nixon, for all his failings, seemed to know he was lying to people.

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fak
fak
@fak@toot.community replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross see also: Twitter/X

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Jo - pièce de résistance
Jo - pièce de résistance
@JoBlakely@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross
LLMs are the epitome of decadence in every sense of the word.
They are a product of moral decline, but also are a decaying process itself. It takes coherent authenticity and humanity and turns it into vomit which it goes back to eat up and vomit up over and over. It is all decay & death, from its needs to its output.

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Fazal Majid
Fazal Majid
@fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross I'm sure the right wing press lords follow the first rule of Scarface: never sample the merchandise.

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Colman Reilly
Colman Reilly
@Colman@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross high on their own (propaganda) supply.

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Phil M0OFX
Phil M0OFX
@philpem@digipres.club replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross That is definitely a way of looking at it. High on their own supply as the old saying goes.

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davecb
davecb
@davecb@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross In five minutes, the second message to reply with "Nothing can survive by eating only what it excretes"

The first one was @glynmoody's "Latest #ChatGPT model uses Elon Musk’s #Grokipedia as source"

I actually never realized people were eating their own dung, too! I thought only computers were that stupid.

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@davecb Does nobody now remember the famous 1960s (or earlier) computing truism, "Garbage In, Garbage Out"?

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jonoleth
jonoleth
@jonoleth@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross @davecb

"Pray, Mr Musk, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?"

"Absolutely"

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Skjeggtroll
Skjeggtroll
@skjeggtroll@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross @davecb

And have they not watched 'Scarface'?

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Charlie Stross
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@skjeggtroll @davecb I haven't: it's a TV show, right?

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Skjeggtroll
Skjeggtroll
@skjeggtroll@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross @davecb

1983 Movie with Al Pacion playing a Cuban emigree turned large-scale cocain dealer. An oft-quoted line from the movie is "Don't get high on your own supply."

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Matúš Chochlík
Matúš Chochlík
@matus_chochlik@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@cstross

in the early 2000s we had a university professor who taught data structures and simulations and he reminded us about this very regularly.

@davecb

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