@liaizon It's just that most plp I see here are already pretty Ati-AI.
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look like it currently has slightly higher MAU's then mastodon.online, hachyderm.io and fosstodon.org
@liaizon I thought that the fact they opt to use IA to make things start running would be more of a turn off for people.
@mgfp I think we here on the fediverse already are in quite a bit of a bubble
@liaizon It's just that most plp I see here are already pretty Ati-AI.
@mgfp
> most plp I see here are already pretty Ati-AI
People who've made the effort to join the fediverse, and stick around, are disproportionately suspicious of tech corporations and anything they hype up. So we're much more anti-"AI" than the population at large, most of whom are drinking the kool-aid by the pitcher. Politicians being seriously concerned about Trained #MOLE displacing most workers, etc.
Me;
> disproportionately suspicious of tech corporations
Quick clarification, just in case anyone is confused by my ambiguous wording, I mean *not* that our suspicion of tech corporations is disproportionate, but just that it doesn't reflect the attitude of the general population. We're very much a self-selected sample ; )
@mgfp thats exactly what I mean by a bubble
anyone know why the #PeerTube instance https://phijkchu.com is listed as having 146,974 users? I think this must be someone tweaking their numbers right?
@ricci seeing your data you also have this instance loaded, so I assume you are just trusting whatever the /nodeinfo is reporting even if thats made up data?
@liaizon that's correct, I'm trusting nodeinfo. I did look a little at this one instance because yeah it's surprising. But it didn't show any obvious tells like a suspiciously stable (hard coded) value, I don't see anything in the peertube code to override user counts, etc. so I just kept it. Certainly possible they've made custom modifications to tweak numbers or some shenanigans with bots but I have no concrete reason to distrust it
@ricci oh also https://paper.wf/read is listed as having 105315 users but there is absolutely no way that is anywhere near true. looking at the recent posts there are only a handful posted perday but it lists 9130 MAU which seems impossible
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@liaizon yeah, similar story - though in their case user counting is a little odd as what they consider a user is a little different. So suspicious but no concrete evidence of bad behavior.
I'm making all my fetches of nodeinfo available raw in case it helps investigate cases like these
https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/data/raw/fedi/nodeinfo/
@liaizon you can click on the "raw data" link under the Fediverse on https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/ to compare (I should probably make a more easily linkable version...)
@liaizon@wake.st imagine being on a server ran by a guy that looks like this
@mook there are other reasons to care about how different servers run and operate, thats the power of federation. I don't want to be on their server at all. I want to be able to follow and interact with a wide demographic of different people and there is currently a totally new demographic of people coming into this place because of this server