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jaz :twt: :wales_flag:
jaz :twt: :wales_flag:
@jaz@toot.wales  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

This bizarre, hurried cut-and-paste Bluesky clone called "W" (wsocial.eu) says it will fill this huge gap in Europe where no social media platforms exist.

Meanwhile... https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/fediverse-near-me_828094#3/25.80/29.79

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The wsocial map shows the world with social media platforms from USA, Russia, and China, and a circle highlighting the lack of platforms in Europe
The wsocial map shows the world with social media platforms from USA, Russia, and China, and a circle highlighting the lack of platforms in Europe
The wsocial map shows the world with social media platforms from USA, Russia, and China, and a circle highlighting the lack of platforms in Europe
The StartHereSocial map shows Europe festooned with Fediverse services
The StartHereSocial map shows Europe festooned with Fediverse services
The StartHereSocial map shows Europe festooned with Fediverse services
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Henryk Plötz
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@henryk@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 minutes ago

@jaz Here's maybe a better map of the fediverse in Europe ;)

(source: https://blog.cloud-mercato.com/does-hetzner-beat-the-whole-iaas-market/ )

Map of Europe in green color, with three red dots in Falkenstein, Germany, Nuremberg, Germany, and Helsinki, Finland, The three locations of Hetzner datacenters.
Map of Europe in green color, with three red dots in Falkenstein, Germany, Nuremberg, Germany, and Helsinki, Finland, The three locations of Hetzner datacenters.
Map of Europe in green color, with three red dots in Falkenstein, Germany, Nuremberg, Germany, and Helsinki, Finland, The three locations of Hetzner datacenters.
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Since Cloud Mercato started to globaly evaluate the whole Cloud Market, one vendor always stands out from the crowd when we talk about European IaaS: Hetzner. Small Cloud provider but well established dedicated servers and collocation sellers. Hetzner is an UFO in the European market (yes, funny for a Cloud),…
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@dan@mastodon.pierronfam.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 16 minutes ago

@jaz genuine question, X reportedly has 94.8M monthly active users (which I take with a large grain of salt). Assuming half are bots, even 10% of the remainder would be 4.74M users, i.e. 2.5x Mastadon's reported MAU. Now, I love Mastadon and what it stands for, but can it really be considered a viable offramp for mass numbers of X users?

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Felix Hlatky
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@mellifluousbox@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 45 minutes ago

@jaz Maybe it's a nod to the power of the fediverse: all these instances (even m.s) are so small they disappear once you zoom out enough on the map with very little power concentration compared to the logos listed 🙂

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Stoneface Vimes
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@capnthommo@c.im replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jaz yeah. It's a real bummer living in Europe and not having any access at all to social media isn't it?

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born2chill
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@b2c@wien.rocks replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@jaz Do we already know what https://www.eurosky.social/ thinks about this? masto_silly

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jaz :twt: :wales_flag:
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@jaz@toot.wales replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@b2c no idea, but I can't imagine they're too worried, they've been doing a great deal of planning and prep to do it well, and no matter what, all press is good press if they spell your name correctly.

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@ikuturso@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 23 minutes ago

@jaz @b2c some people associated with that don't seem to have a very high opinion of it: https://bsky.app/profile/robin.berjon.com/post/3mcx7dz2gfk2a

Personally my opinion of both is equally low...

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Toni Aittoniemi
Toni Aittoniemi
@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@jaz The empty spaces on this map are where the good social networks are! 😉

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Martin Vermeer FCD
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@martinvermeer@fediscience.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@gimulnautti @jaz And even the rightmost map is 'curated' and misses a great many fine Finnish instances. If you think there is one Finnish Mastodon and two Finnish Pixelfeds, you're doing it wrong.

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@jaz@toot.wales replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@martinvermeer @gimulnautti https://jaz.co.uk/projects/mastodon-near-me/#inclusion-criteria

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Martin Vermeer FCD
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@martinvermeer@fediscience.org replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jaz @gimulnautti Ah, I see. When the limit is 50 users, that excludes many of them. Still wondering what is wrong with eliitin-some.fi.

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@jaz@toot.wales replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@martinvermeer @gimulnautti every once in a while I post a call for additions, and people send me links all the time. I'll add this one to the list for review.

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Toni Aittoniemi
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@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 25 minutes ago

@jaz @martinvermeer Cozy homes on the fedi ftw!!

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Toni Aittoniemi
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@gimulnautti@mastodon.green replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@jaz Eurobros, aka european techbros.. Just as bad as their American cousins.

They got the money, they got the connections, but they ain’t got the thing.

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@byrnensorg@mastodon.ie replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@jaz I am torn, in the midst of a metaphysical dichotomy. Mastodon is the way it is now because a few do not know or do not want to know about it, but promote it more and we'll have X Mk II or Truth Social god forbid, yes I am a fan of homeostasis.

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@jaz@toot.wales replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@byrnensorg I honestly don't think that's the outcome. There are a million Fediverses, all built by people like you and me who connect to and consume from just a portion of the entire thing. Everyone blocks something, almost no-one is connected to all of it.

Add 100 million more people, you don't necessarily have to be exposed to them. Some might call it splintering or fragmenting or decentralising, I call it groups.

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A visualisation of numerous Fediverse servers, and their relationship by proximity to other servers
A visualisation of numerous Fediverse servers, and their relationship by proximity to other servers
A visualisation of numerous Fediverse servers, and their relationship by proximity to other servers
From the Wikipedia definition of "human": Humans are highly social, with individual humans tending to belong to a multi-layered network of distinct social groups – from families and peer groups to corporations and political states.
From the Wikipedia definition of "human": Humans are highly social, with individual humans tending to belong to a multi-layered network of distinct social groups – from families and peer groups to corporations and political states.
From the Wikipedia definition of "human": Humans are highly social, with individual humans tending to belong to a multi-layered network of distinct social groups – from families and peer groups to corporations and political states.
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@jailandrade@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@jaz I didn't know TikTok USA was in Mexico

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@JdeBP@mastodonapp.uk replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@jaz

Just don't mis-type the domain name, or you'll get directed to those strange people who write about cats and sheep and Glasgow. (-:

https://mastodon.social/@_elena/115937301398338772

Do you think that the social. top-level domain registry (Leaf Group) allows single-letter registrations like 'w'? (-:

@_elena @kayla #BlueSky #FediVerse

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@alex@social.alexhyett.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@jaz and that is just the major instances and doesn't account for all the smaller instances as well.

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@jaz@toot.wales replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

Why do I say it's hurried?

A notr on the sign up page for wsocial reads "This service has not provided terms of service or a privacy policy."
A notr on the sign up page for wsocial reads "This service has not provided terms of service or a privacy policy."
A notr on the sign up page for wsocial reads "This service has not provided terms of service or a privacy policy."
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Tom Casavant
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@tom@tomkahe.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 hours ago

@jaz definitely hurried, they also don't have a security issue reporting flow yet. Which I incidentally discovered yesterday (https://bsky.app/profile/tomkahe.com/post/3mcz77x3wfc26). Had to reach out to one of their engineers who forwarded it onto their ops team.

I do hope they succeed, but this feels like the wrong way to go about it.

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@cm@chaos.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@jaz Even more concerning since the founder was Chief Privacy Officer according to the article you linked.

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@jaz@toot.wales replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

Let's see what's trending on the EU-focused social media platform.

Delroy Lindo - British actor, so thanks for having us back, good to be European again.
Davos Forum - no comment
Trump's Board of Peace - even less comment
Mets Trade - Ah yes, the Malmo Mets. Love 'em.
Swerve Strickland - almost Swedish.
AEW Dynamite - EU sure is - ahem - "wrestling" with digital sovereignty

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Delroy Lindo Davos Forum Trump's Board of Peace Mets Trade Swerve Strickland AEW Dynamite
Delroy Lindo Davos Forum Trump's Board of Peace Mets Trade Swerve Strickland AEW Dynamite
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@jaz@toot.wales replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

To be clear, I'm all for any and all platforms pushing for digital sovereignty, but this feels like a brash attempt to undercut Eurosky and get something, anything, on the board for Davos. There appears to be funding.

Governments can't fund what they don't know about.

If European digital sovereignty is important to you, start writing some emails to the people you think might be funding this.

Some background: https://www.bilanz.ch/people/w-social-will-twitter-konkurrenz-machen-899933

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W Social setzt auf echte Nutzer und Werte

Ein neues soziales Netzwerk soll Europa unabhängiger machen. In der Hauptrolle: Die Zürcherin Anna Zeiter.
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@Pepijn@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 31 minutes ago

>undercut Eurosky and get something,

Oooh. I just assumed #wsocial were the same people as those doing the #eurosky grift! Thanks for clarifying 😄

@jaz

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@Pepijn@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 34 minutes ago

>undercut Eurosky and get something,

Oooh. I thought #wsocial were the same people doing the #eurosky grift!

@jaz

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Kristijan
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@lapor@toot.si replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 hours ago

@jaz I was just looking at the first picture and asking myself....Where the hell is logo from Mastodon 🫠

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