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TechAltar
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@Techaltar@mas.to  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

Germany has just introduced EV purchase subsidies again and even on YT channels that are full with EV drivers the comments unanimously agree that this is a waste of money. Incredibly expensive taxpayer subsidies that will just lead to car brands increasing list prices by the subsidy amount.

The much better solution is to subsidize charging infrastructure (still lacking) or, better yet, alternatives to driving...

FYI the video I screenshotted in case you're wondering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ57oAnGwAk

Screenshot of german language YouTube comments complaining about the EV subsidies
Screenshot of german language YouTube comments complaining about the EV subsidies
Screenshot of german language YouTube comments complaining about the EV subsidies
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LegoBrickOnFire
LegoBrickOnFire
@LegoBrickOnFire@tooting.ch replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar Europe could also just remove it's 100% tax on chinese vehicles... That would car prices in half!

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TechAltar
TechAltar
@Techaltar@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@LegoBrickOnFire it would also cut a few other things in half tho 😁

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MostlyBlindGamer
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@MostlyBlindGamer@dragonscave.space replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar I’m convinced the German government’s constituents are almost exclusively VW shareholders.
Politicians aren’t clueless, things like this aren’t accidents: they’re the plan.

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TechAltar
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@Techaltar@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@MostlyBlindGamer 100% agree

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Anders Cornelius Madsen
Anders Cornelius Madsen
@madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar Dane here. We have had a similar setup for many years (no or much lower taxes on EVs, compared to ICE-vehicles, at purchase), and our experience is much different.

EVs in general make up some 70% of all new car sales and around 90% if we look at private use only here in Denmark. Denmark is a pretty small market in absolute numbers, compared to just about all other countries around us, but we still have the lowest wholesale and retail prices in Europe.

Competition here is fierce, with campaigns and special offers and general discounts coming from all sides. Consumers have been winning big time in this case.

There is one thing that makes our market unique, though. We have pretty high taxes on new ICE-vehicles, to a point where EVs are now easily 10.000 EUR cheaper than a comparable ICE model, when bought at retail with the lower or no tax.

That may make our market dynamics different from offering subsidies - that part is above my paygrade.

Also, electricity for charging your car at home has been tax-free for years, making running cost for an EV a LOT lower than those for a comparable ICE model. If anything, that iz probably what could bring consumers over to the EV side.

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Matthew 🖖
Matthew 🖖
@mcbaumwolle@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar #Deutschlandticket goes brr.

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Jeroen
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@Hayertjez@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

@Techaltar also the EU has put already enough regulation in place to nudge carmakers into making EV’s a more logical option. As emissions need to go down (on average across the fleet sold). So there is no environmental gain either.

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