馃惌 Real question:
Sometimes I read negative comments about #Lemmy or even calls to defederate...
Why do some people on the #Fediverse feel so strongly about Lemmy?
Isn't an #opensource alternative to #Reddit a good thing?
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@madeindex Every bit of support from you, whether sharing or donating, lights the way for my children in these difficult times.
@madeindex The other replies on this thread have covered a lot of the topic and I'll also mention #threadiverse projects like PieFed and KBin/Mbin as alternatives. (I'm not close enough to any of this to have much of an opinion, however).
@soaproot Did not know about these! They seem pretty cool, will check them out when I can :)
https://join.piefed.social/
https://joinmbin.org/
(couldn't find KBin though)
@madeindex KBin is apparently gone, as far as I could tell from https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core and what is linked from there, so it looks like I could have just said "MBin" rather than "MBin/KBin".
@soaproot Thank you for checking :)
@madeindex Assumes Reddit is a good thing.
I've blocked a number of Lemmy servers thanks to inane/feral posts. I.e., if everything I see from a server is something I don't want to see, I'll fix it so I don't have to see it.
@Corb_The_Lesser 馃構 makes sense :)
@madeindex maybe a little bit offtopic but:
When I asked a really good friend of mine (former reddit user) why he is using Lemmy instead of Mastodon, he told me that he prefers to follow "topics" instead of "people"
@timmoe85 That is a very good point, might also be a difference in the content display preferences by the communities.
@madeindex Most notable controversy I'm aware of was a hard-coded slur filter: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622
This was years ago and AFAIK is now completely optional. The initial stance of the devs rubbed many people wrong and some people might still hold a grudge.
Also there seem people not liking that the lemmy devs themselves hosting lemmy.ml
Not sure about possible political stances of lemmy devs?
Similar in the Mastodon world where Pleroma seems to get (or was getting?) a lot of heat. Not up-to-date in that regard. I liked that Pleroma was so lightweight compared to Mastodon. Tried self-hosting and had the impression that other instance sometimes automatically blocked based on the instance beeing Pleroma. IIRC it was mostly about the dev(s) behind Pleroma. Honestly don't know and decided to not self-host Mastodon at all.
Lemmy development is (was?) at least partially (or mainly?) funded by NLnet foundation. They seem to be legit and do a lot of good. I would assume they vetted the project to fund them.
At the end of the day the Lemmy ecosystem is like the Mastodon ecosystem IMO. It depends on what instance you are on. Plenty of bad instances in both worlds. I like Lemmy as a Reddit alternative. Can't wait for 1.0 to drop. RC already out and publicly available. Looks promising.
@madeindex seems weird - do people really want that?!
@patrickleavy Good question, trying to find that out myself :)
The main thing I've heard is that Lemmy was started by, and the main instance run by, "tankies" (pro-russia/pro-putin folks)
@rl_dane @madeindex @patrickleavy I was initially on lemmy.ml, and holy cow that is the vibe. Constant posting about this and related issues, and angry little mobs if anyone disagrees.
Note: Someone here on masto told me a few weeks ago that *.ml instances of lemmy tend to be tanky-heavy, while others might not be.
@guyjantic Sorry to hear that!
That sounds a whole lot like a big part of Reddit ;)
@rl_dane @patrickleavy
@guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex any suggestions for less tankie instances? I joined ml as it said the focus was on digital privacy.
@patrickleavy @guyjantic @rl_dane @madeindex I've been using PieFed, which is an alternative to Lemmy with a cleaner UI in my opinion. You can post in Lemmy threads and talk with Lemmy users without actually using Lemmy; all comments get forwarded to everyone in the community by default, so you don't miss anything by being on a smaller instance running different software. The devs seem great, too.
Couple instances:
- piefed.social (not US based, though I forget where)
- feddit.online (US based)
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@patrickleavy @rl_dane @madeindex I asked a few people a couple of weeks ago and got some great recommendations. One was infosec.pub, run by the same person who runs infosec.exchange (my masto instance, and I very much like it). Other suggestions included
lemmy.world
retrolemmy.com (retro tech or gaming focused)
discuss.online
lemmy.ca (Canadian)
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