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@Bit_form@corteximplant.com  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

I think about it a lot, especially with new instances starting, how discourse around things like meta and #fedipact maybe haven't even hit them, or weather they even care that they have been federated with meta (threads) off the rip.

Also side-eyeing instances that get made through an AI like Operator.... I feel like I really don't trust any of that shit, but I do want to engage with the good will of people starting here y'know?

Shit's complicated. It's weird wanting to be part of a better world but also wanting to guide others into it for themselves.

I just know for sure that isolation isn't ever the answer.

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Charles U. Farley
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@freakazoid@retro.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@Bit_form I don't see how letting any rando run an instance just because they have sysadmin skills can possibly work out well for us. IMO they should have to show they're good fedizens before being allowed to federate. Silence new instances by default.

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@Bit_form@corteximplant.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@freakazoid when it was a hot topic of discourse I did like the idea of some opting to be a bridge in good will. I wouldn't do it, also I have no skills in that but good on them I guess.

I think I'm still sort of critical in the way that I don't believ that bridging leads people away from big tech, it only enables people to have their cake and eat it too, sacrificing nothing while remaining comfortable in the shit they've been wallowing in.

Following this analogy:

It's not the act of getting out of the shit dumpster, but just putting fresh shit inside and it helping because its new, fresh, warm shit. The problem of hanging out in a pile of shit doesn't actually end.

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@freakazoid@retro.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@Bit_form I think that, since most of us come from a tech background, we've ended up thinking way too much about the tech and way too little about people and communities. As a result, the thing we've built doesn't actually meet most people's needs, which makes bridging pointless.

You have to trust your instance admin, and there's a local feed, which makes instances a natural community, but Mastodon doesn't support local posts (Hometown does AIUI) and doesn't really privilege local accounts in any other way, and people don't want to have to make multiple accounts to participate in multiple communities.

Hashtags are also a poor fit for communities: different instances have different views of the same hashtag, and they're hard to moderate. And "groups" are a centralized hack.

I don't think federated will ever work well. It'll all follow the same fate as email and usenet: get dominated by a few large players who care nothing about anyone's needs but their own, then slowly die. We're watching the same thing happen with Matrix.

I consider the Fediverse to be a temporary home until someone builds something better on top of Veilid. They seem to have made a lot of very good design choices.

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@freakazoid@retro.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

@Bit_form And there's something even more fundamental about federated services that I think dooms them: the technical skills to run an instance are the last thing that should qualify someone to have power over anyone else. Being a good sysadmin says nothing about your moderation or community building skills.

And one thing I've observed in the Fediverse is that many of the people running instances aren't even good sysadmins; they barely have any clue what they're doing. That people depend on them for their online presence makes me sick.

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